i don't think i've started but one or two threads before.
i find myself sitting here listening to beautiful instrumental christmas music and feeling down.. you see, i was "in" for over thirty years.
thirty years with no christmas.
It might do you good to volunteer at a soup kitchen or, in some other way, reach out to your fellow human beings in need. I am often amazed at the good cheer and kindness of the down-and-out.
Don't be hard on yourself, whatever you decide to do. We can't change the past.
Wishing you a Merry Christmas!
you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.
yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.
move on.
I don't see Hortensia's post as being a "why don't you get on with your life" statement. Sometimes it's so hard to find the right words so that what one says will not be misinterpreted.
you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.
yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.
move on.
I have been out since 1979. I have taken long "leaves of absence" from this board, sometimes because I lacked internet access, but I keep coming back. My hope is that I will find other ex-JW's who I know personally on here. So far, it hasn't happened. I've been to a few apostafests as well, but still no luck. I have found some of my ex-JW former associates on Facebook, which is wonderful.
I entirely agree with Hortensia. Since I exited the JW's, I have obtained a college degree, helped my daughter do the same, associated with people of all kinds who I like and admire, traveled, and enjoyed life in general so much more! I was a convert, so leaving family members behind was not a serious issue with me. Both of my parents became baptized JW's after I exited, but they did not shun me. But I was never DF'ed, but moved far away from my congregation.
As my second husband used to say, "Don't believe a word I say. Trust your own bad eye." It's great to be who you really are. It's wonderful to live from the inside than to be told what to do from the outside.
Best wishes to everyone!
i have been going through the most terrible time these past 4 weeks, which has nothing to do with the jw, and everything to do with being abandoned with anxiety, panic and agoraphobia, and a new diagnoses of an illness called pmdd, which robbed me of my career, and it seems, my marriage, as my husband has moved out and left me with our son.
this man, this "stranger", jumped in his car to offer me support, and travelled 2 hours to be with me, despite what was going on with him, just be with me for a few hours and try to help.
what an amazing selfless act.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. When I was young, I read Dr. Wayne Dyer's book, entitled Your Erroneous Zones. I see that book in used book stores still. It really helped me to deal with negative emotions (guilt, worry fear, etc.) and gave me incentive to start thinking for myself and stop being an obedient slave. I recommend that you read it. There are many great self-help books out there.
Wishing you health and strength and many friends like Joe.
stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.
nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.
can go skipping down the road with a smile!.
Again I am reminded of an observation made by my college classmate Jim Morgan, who said, "Most people are just looking for somebody to follow." While it's great to seek wisdom from varied sources, following someone limits you so much. Learn from anyone who has wisdom and insight, but be you, who you are inside. No one else can tell you who you are and what you want to do. Look inward, for there is "where it's at."
good morning.
want to attend?.
kingdom ministry school.
It's probably somewhat appropriate for a large group of men with a 3rd-grade reading level and no critical thinking skills.
if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.
so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.
" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.
When I was in college (to which I returned in my 30's), a classmate once observed that "most people are just looking for somebody to follow." I don't know why I felt like I'd just been blasted with ice water, but I did. It's great to learn from others and seek wisdom, but what you want and need can only be found within yourself. Nobody you follow can do anything for you that you can't do for yourself. Just do it!
this video is hilarious and very, very clever.
youtuber, theunwitness makes a call to hq and asks the question "can i talk to anthony morris?
" and uses matthew 18:15-17 as his reason.
It probably would be easier to get an audience with the Pope than with the "ivory tower" GB members. This telephone conversation had so much repetition because the goon who worked for Morris couldn't get his head around "between you and him alone." I don't know if the borg even pretends to be "Bible-based" anymore. It seems rare that they ever speak of anything Biblical.
with all the terrible things happening on this earth, i bet most witnesses feel that jehovah god has to step in..
I would "think" whatever they told me to "think" unless some magician came into my life and gave me the ability to think for myself.
i dreamed, once again, you were at my side talking, laughing, loving.
the sun warmed my face and you my heart as we lived a life forever.. i awoke with a start that left behind the land of our past, viewing my today for the misery and sadness that, truly, it is and ever shall be.. is it better to live in the land of dreams with the one i love or to exist alone and awake, recalling the dark intent that poisoned your heart?.
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Wow!
