my proclaimer's book is in storage right now, but i did a post some years ago on a picture in that book.
it's the picture of the dubs sitting down listening to joe rutherford rant and rave at one of the "7 trumpet" assemblies in the 1920's.
if you look at the picture, you will see that all females had their heads covered, and many of the head coverings were what looked like doilies or paper napkins!
I just have to say - what kind of most powerful deity would give a crap what a pissant little human had on it head or not!? What a crock of *hit. "Oooo, better throw a paper towl on your head of god'll kill you!"
I can't beleive I used to fall for this crap!
for married couples who ended up leaving the jws together, which spouse broke from the jws first?
what was your reaction to your spouse leaving at first?
what made you decide to finally leave with your spouse?.
Story's much the same here. I was the 'weak' one, my leaving was never really triggered by one event, but a culmination of seeing the total injustice of the JW 'justice' system, the obvious good old boy network that existed in the elder/c.o./d.o. (and above) arrangement. Not too mention the sheer boredom of the meetings/mags/books/conventions, the generation flip-flop was probably the doctrinal issue that caught my attention the most, though by that time I was already 'weak' By that time I was already faking the 1-2 hours of FS a month, and only attending the occasional Sud/Thurs meeting. My wife was trying to attend more, but out of guilt - she hated the meetings too, but felt guilty if she missed one 'without a good reason'. Needless to say no-one really cared to find out what the 'problems' we were having were. Of which I'm glad - we had had enough of the fake 'concern' in our last KH.
It also helped that we had been involved in a different (non-JW) group of people (non-religous too) and saw ALL of the same group dynamics that existed in JWs - the politics, the gossip/back-biting, etc. Helped us realize that all groups of people interact in the same way, and that JWs are no different than any other group - men use the group to promote themselves in all cases. Men use groups to position themselve into power over other people in all cases. It the nature of man. Of course the flip side is that there were many good people in that group too - people who were genuine, and showed us that the 'world' wasn't exactly the demonized, crazy nasty place we were raised to beleive.
I guess the strange thing about our exit is that no one event triggered it, no point in time did either of us say "That's it we're done". I eventually just stopped attending, no one cared, and the demons didn't pop out of the walls and grab me. My wife hung in a while longer, but the obvious lack of love in the congs we were around didn't make that any easier - she eventually whittled down to no meeting attendance too. I didn't go looking for the JW web sites for a long time, just mainly because I didn't think I cared, but finding out ALL the info about them was eye-opening to say the least. My wife finds much of this interesting (the UN, child molesting, coverups, etc), but for the most part has moved on to other things in her life. I guess I'm the one with the latent feelings of madness
The best part of it all is that once the exodous was complete my wife's health almost overnight improved 100%, the stress/guilt she placed herself under constantly HAD to have triggered the problems. Once she learned to live life guilt free, things were so much better. We're happier together, and still have common interests and goals. So we walked out about as well as I think is possible!
I wonder how many of these prisoners are paedophiles?
Probably not many - prisoners know what to do with pedos. I think I'd rather be a cop in jail than a pedo ...
i have worked for and with a jw for over twenty years.
for the last three years he has not attended church in any way.......that is except one.......the yearly memorial meeting.
prior to this inactivity he was a staunch supporter in every way a witness is expected to be.
Personally, though I have no facts other than seeing the mess in 'regular' churches parking lots around Easter and Christmas, is that they too 'double' or even 'triple' in size for their yearly celibrations. I think you would find many, many that attend just Easter meetings. Same reason drifted JWs go to memorial - just to 'keep a foot in the door' so to speak.
are you a nerd?.
http://www.armory.com/tests/nerd.html.
you answered "yes" to 37 of 100 questions - you have 37.0% nerd in you.. your weirdness factor is 30%, based on a comparison of your test results with 109450 other submissions for this test.
Here is the result of your Nerd Purity Test.
You answered "yes" to 40 of 100 questions, making you 60.0% nerd pure (40.0% nerd corrupt); that is, you are 60.0% pure in the nerd domain (you have 40.0% nerd in you).
Your Weirdness Factor (AKA Uniqueness Factor) is 34%, based on a comparison of your test results with 109450 other submissions for this test.
The average purity for this test is 71.8%.
this is unbelievable.
here is an excerpt from an email i got from a jw friend regarding the pedophilia issue.
take particular note this persons's rationale regarding the wt legal dept.
"I have never heard a lawyer speak like a hick in all my life"
You have now. This is what happens when you take a back-woods, uneducated person and ship them to law school on the JWs dime (who knows - they probably get mail order law degrees too).
dubs are always looking for an angle to make money.their probably no worse than anybody else,but they do like to preach against materialism while chasing the illusive dollar.alot of times its some form of pyramid scheme.amway for one,or the triple charge system(owned and operated by some dubs from califonia)then theres the out and out pyramid scheme.you bring in people who give the pyramid $500.00,after bringing in so many people the guy at the top get`s a $17,000.00 payout,and is free to start again at the bottem of the pyramid.i`ve known a few dubs who have collected their 17grand.the pyramid eventually burns out,and the people at the bottem are left holding the bag(no payout).they lose the money they couldn`t afford to spend to begin with.there are some dubs though,that make a good living at this.what are some of the get rich schemes you`ve witnessed(pun intended)in dubland?...outlaw
Man o man, the memories. The magic health pills (herbs, etc) of various brands made the rounds in several of the halls I attended - with the 'sisters' pushing the latest and greatest magic herbal remedy - too bad they left out the one that would have really helped .
I saw so many dubs jump from job to job, always looking for that next great payout. After a few months, and the predictable bad ending, they'd find yet another scheme to fall for. It was sad yet almost funny at the same time.
And yes, I saw many 'loving' brothers who would stab each other in the back to make a dime, some I would even label preditors, who knew they could rope dumb dubs into any scheme. The sadest part is some of them could rope the same people into differrent schemes over and over again! you'd think they'd learn SOMETHING!
hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.
the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.
datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.
by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we don’t celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the Devil and that we want them all to die
Well, if the shoe fits ... you are an oddball crackpot religion.
sock it to 'em, bill!
praise the lord, the truth's coming out!
Awesome so far!!! I can't believe the taped call to the legal dept ...
could someone explain to me how the generation doctrine changed?
i know that originally they thought it applied to the generation of 1914 and i heard that it changed.
i asked my dad to explain it to me but his explanation didn't make any sense to me - something like "a generation can last forever" ???
Yea, what a Joke that entire 'generation' thing was. I remember standing in the back of the KH during that WT study, NO one in the audience even showed a glimer of understanding, just repated the tripe in the WT. The fellow standing next to me looked over and said "well, I guess they got themselves out of that one easily" (refering to the fact that all the 1914 people are almost gone). I just grined and nodded. What a joke!
"this generation" apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ's presence but fail to mend their ways."
Ha ha. Meaningless tripe.
