for far too many years we americans have paid our taxes and gone about our peaceful lives believing we lived in the best and safest country in the world.. september 11, 2001 claimed the title of the day that will live in infamy.
the attack on pearl harbor must now relinquish that title, as tuesday's attack was undeniably worse than that military attack on a naval base.
millions of people watched in horror as the second plane crashed into the world trade center tower on live television and thousands of innocent civilians-americans-died before a worldwide audience.. terrorist hijackers, some receiving their pilot training in america.
Racism? How about nationalism? How to seperate the two in this country of so many races?
You have to admit, it stirs the blood to realize that we have been bending over backwards to help other countries (I don't pretend the U.S. is SO innocent, but they do send aid to others in many cases), giving very fairly free access to this country, and subsidizing foriegn education. When our own are denied the same. Where do you draw the line?
my husband opened up pandora's box with his mom today.
now she wants to come over this weekend to find out why we do not believe this is the truth anymore.
she is a die-hard witness who eats, sleeps, breathes, "the truth.".
Dude - go ahead and send it to [email protected] - Thanks!
I too may have parents coming this weekend. I've been avoiding calling them for the same reason TweetieBird! I know it's going to be a 'oh the end is near' talk. Same as she did during the Gulf War.
my husband opened up pandora's box with his mom today.
now she wants to come over this weekend to find out why we do not believe this is the truth anymore.
she is a die-hard witness who eats, sleeps, breathes, "the truth.".
Zev, don't be greedy, what's the discussion?
chasson posted this in another thread, and i think it should be brought to the forefront.
thank you, chasson for showing us all this link.. typical society response to tragedy.
so three people got out and got to brooklyn.
Just like Bush Sr said that, just like the UN made 1986 the 'year of peace and security?'. Just like countless other political figures have said the same? That's their job - to molify the people.
Just like old Nostradomus (sp?) the bible has so many vauge prophesies that you can make any event fit something.
War=sign of the end
Peace & Security=time of the end
Nice when you can have your cake and eat it too!
yes folks.
twin towers hit!!!.
prelude to armaggeddon?.
These people are so predictable. More 'gems' from WOL ...
I guess we all can't help thinking, being all diligent Bible students, 'What does this mean?' Of course we as mere humans do not know. But since we are always awake to the signs of the times and on the watch it is only natural for us to wonder what any outstanding world event MIGHT signify. We cannot speculate or say that our own ideas are right but it is good for all of us to realize the seriousness of world events and their place in the fulfullment of Bible prophecy. It's hard not to feel that today's gigantically horrible events signify SOMETHING in the outworking of Jehovah's purposes. What happened today was HUGE, the news reporters and others are saying it is bigger than Pearl Harbor in it's world and historical impact. So we have to lean on Jehovah and his organization for guidance. We should NOT try to run ahead of Jehovah in our guessings as to what this means but we are AWAKE that it probably means SOMETHING and we eagerly await Jehovah's clarification through His earthly channel the faithful and discreet slave.
Ooo, don't run ahead of Jah's FDS!
Yes we may yet have years left in this system or not but as our dear young brother Tigr stated let us each make sure WE ARE READY and serving Jehovah faithfully to the best of our ability at ALL TIMES everyday.
The end is coming, the end is coming ... oops, maybe not, maybe it's years away, but better keep selling mags.
I was very encouraged in talking to my almost 19 year old nephew today. He is working now toward baptism and like many of our young ones can sometimes get a little distracted by things like sports and music etc. He was really shaken by what happened today and the first thing he said was 'Do you think this is the great tribulation?' So I told him 'Well, we can't say yet what it means. And talked about the things that have yet to take place..the fall of Babylon etc. Then he said 'Wow, this is a real wake up call for me! I'm really going to get baptized now! And if they start up the draft I will go to prison if they try to make me fight! And I know all my friends(other young ones in his Hall) will go to prison too if we have to.' Then he was going to call his friends to encourage each other.
This is what makes me sick. I see this scenario happinging a hundred, thousand times over. Those who were getting out or not serious take this as a 'sign' to get back in. Very sad.
check out big ray.
he really is big!.
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I guess all those people in the pictures are SO happy they eat all the time. I don't think I saw a single skinny peoples anywhere!
Not that there's anything wrong with that
i was in the town this morning and saw a little cluster of jws leaving the kingdom hall, clutching their ministry bags, eager to go out into the field service.... well, maybe eager isnt quite the right word.... anyway, i thought to myself - how many people will they convert today?
one, two, a whole family?
the more obvious answer is none at all.
Ah yes, the sign of the times. Forget about the fact that wars in centuries past were much more deadly, plauges much more deadly, hunger much more common, etc. Things are SO BAD now. I wish I lived in the 14th century, I could have had the plauge, been hungry w/ all my teeth rotted out, been drawn and quartered, or scewered like a human shish-kabob for doubting the churches offical beliefs. Or perhaps I could have lived a long and healthy life (40 years) before some new tyrant king came to my village raping my children and killing me. Ah the good ol days ...
i was in the town this morning and saw a little cluster of jws leaving the kingdom hall, clutching their ministry bags, eager to go out into the field service.... well, maybe eager isnt quite the right word.... anyway, i thought to myself - how many people will they convert today?
one, two, a whole family?
the more obvious answer is none at all.
ArgCampeon: Ha ha! So typical of a JW.
Growth = God's favor/end near
Decline = God's favor/end near
Wars/crime increase = sign of the times/end near
Wars/crime decrease = nations say 'peace and security'/end near
No matter what happens the 'End is Near'. What a joke. Didn't you get the memo? The 1914 GENERATION has died and oops, GENERATION refers to some jibba jabber about a 'time period'. jibba jabber jibba jabber jibba jabber. What you talkin 'bout foo!
mulan and seeker4 got me thinking in the previous thread called 'what did you do first?...'..
they both made the point that they were turning in reports when not going out on field service (tsk, tsk!
) and i remembered the times i 'cooked the books' a little and rounded up the figures, fiddled my time a little, counting time when it was not proper ministry.
Ah, counting time. Seeker4, you used the old "what's jehovah's name" trick too huh? Doesn't surprise me - alot of us did. Yes, the tricks of getting time in during pioneering were many! Starting time in one cong and then going to the meeting for FS in another county over :) Or the old 'one call at the north side of the county, back to the south side for call #2' trick. Man those 10 hour days were MURDER. Ugh. <shudder>
i was wondering, for those of you who have left the organization, how long did the transition take?
i mean, how long after you left did you feel up in the air, in turmoil, lost, unsettled?
long long before you felt comfortable with the decision and basically happy with your life?
(at least those for which 42 isn't a satisfying answer)
Ha ha! Make sure you don't forget your towel ...
RIP Douglas Adams.
