i was reading an anti cult reddit post where a woman (ex mormon) was trying her hardest to discourage the mormons from visiting her and trying to convert her back.
a few others chimed in about their various methods (coming to the door naked, pretending to be practicing black magic, etc.
) which they claimed would have the mormons and jws running away as fast as possible.. somehow, i doubt it.
The woman who studied with me told me A householder came to the door naked. She just looked at his eyes and did her presentation.
I had one come to the door in only his tighty whites”. I also gave a very very brief presentation. That kind of thing would not send me running. A vicious dog would.
jw's are not known for laughter.
there are the rare exceptions.
they are more known for their fear mongering and doomsday scenarios where "the dead shall come to be as manure on the surface of the ground from one end of the earth clear to the other".
I think it depends on the congregation how much humor and laughter is apparent and acceptable. When I first visited a KH, I was appalled by what I had always felt was disrespectful in a church. There was whispering, note passing, openly sharing candy, snickering sotto voce comments. I was raised Catholic, and woe to me and my siblings if we didn’t kneel up straight god forbid we talked. And candy?
in the second congregation I attended, there was too much infighting for anyone to be laughing at much of anything.
hi redhw,.
i've been having a few problems with my computer so anyways i thought i'd reply to you in a new thread.. you said:" spectromize, i disagree with your assertion that because someone is not a jw, their prayers must therefore be answered by satan.".
i never asserted or even said that.
Raymond,
interesting flash back. Thx for posting. It can’t be the first post ever, however, since red horsewoman apparently had problems with something the other poster had written previously.
https://youtu.be/tppmprdxxzw?si=shh5vkmuzfp6c9_m.
so the watchtower has come out with sn article, study article 2 in their newly released study watchtower magazine for 2025 and we see from the start how they keep perpetuating the same old outdated narrative that when it comes to marriages the husband is the one at fault, we'll thats i think when i read paragraph from this article where i man has to work on a whole list of things and not once the wife is instructed to do any of these things, but let's just read together paragraph 14:.
what are these steps?
Back in the day, when there was a study article focused on husbandly obligations, there was a subsequent article about wifely duties. I remember that very distinctly because on one occasion the brother said, “don’t think you sisters are getting off the hook. Next week will be studying…”
They have to justify the whole headship thing. but It’s an outdated concept. I have never put much stock in anything the Apostle Paul said. those were his thoughts and they are indicative of the time during which she lived. However, if the WTS is going to insist on headship, well, then the men damn well better be responsible for something.
an old elder friend from out of town stopped to see my ailing wife.
more than the locals do.
he said elder school emphasized 2 years and the existing body will be the leaders through persecution and tribulation.
Unbelievable. They haven’t learned a thing since the last time they predicted the big A. If no one knows knows the date or the hour, why are they still trying?
my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
The Kingdom Hall is no place for Christians.
i was listening to a lunchtime call in radio show about jws and the personal experiences of being disfellowshiped, and a former elder called in saying he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws and their involvement in the un in the 1990s ,and he just said look it up.. thinking that it was a made up lie ,so i looked it up and it was true even a letter confirming it from the un itself and that led me here and to jwfacts and further research into the history and teachings of jw and walked out the door about 5 years ago.
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In 2002 I was disfellowshipped for smoking and came to this board under a different username. I had been baptized in 1985 despite my disbelief of and disagreement with the things I was learning I let myself be pushed. Anyway, those initial doubts were never dispelled, and once the Internet became populated, I was able to look things up. That led me to this site and to Crisis of Conscience. That was the proverbial last nail in the coffin. .
since the begin of this millennium, when i became pimo on the way to pomo, i started higher education and made some promotion that lead to a higher management position.. i'm a regional manager now, acting in a management team and stakeholder manager.. in this position, we do intense feedback, coaching trajects et cetera, that goes under the waterline.
a issue i have to deal with is distrust.
i made an analyse of myself and found out that i don't trust the intentions of many of my stakeholders.. i want to do something about this, to become a better person and making further progression.. could it be jw upbringing related?
I was not raised JW and I only spent about five or six years as a witness. My distrust comes from working in retail. Everyone was out to screw you , from the customers to your team members to your colleagues. From the customers, I have seen every scam in the book. The associates I managed were actually hilarious in their attempts to scam me or pull the wool over my eyes. I respected the honest ones . One texted me to say she wouldn’t be to work because she was still drunk from last night. However, you seem to be a business professional, not a retail manager, so people may behave differently..
I don’t know what your work environment is so I really don’t know what to say to help, because I do distrust people now. I was way too trusting before my retail career. Anyway, congratulations on your high-level job.
mark jones writes:.
if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders they’d be “invited” to a judicial committee whereupon they’d be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .
if the elders decide that they are guilty, they’ll then decide if the person is sorry.
It worked for me
How far would the "my unbelieving spouse insists on observing it" argument get someone?
the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.
the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.
i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.
I’ve done four day assemblies.
