anyone else notice in the jeremiah book the last couple of weeks that they are really coming down hard on having non-jw friendships?
like really hard, comparing them to jeremiah's time where he was thrown in stocks, down a well, etc.
by people of his time.
Anyone else notice in the Jeremiah book the last couple of weeks that they are really coming down hard on having non-jw friendships? Like really hard, comparing them to Jeremiah's time where he was thrown in stocks, down a well, etc. by people of his time. What is with that? Are they implying that some of our "wordly" friends will do the same to us?
This plus increasing hardline against higher education... its like someone in the writing dept. has some pet peeves to get off his chest. Idiots.
not to start some form of popularity contests here but i was wondering how popular some people were?
how far did your network go in this organization?
this question also pertains to those who are actively fading..
In my former circuit I was. Since I have been labeled as a "bad attitude" by my former BOE not so much.
so in the congregation you had those wine and bread loving annointed people?
but i ask, why did the men that were annointed not immediately appointed as an elder, and then a circuit overseer and so on up the ranks.
it would seem to me, that if god saw them fit to rule in heaven.
We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know
If we dont need to know then why are the partakers noted in the worldwide report in the yearbook. What reason would there be to even count at all
i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.
due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.
isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?
Wtf is wrong with Star Wars?
i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.
due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.
isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?
Most CO's are high on themselves and their "great role" that God Jehovah is using them in. This is refelected mostly in how they treat the elders when they are there, occasionally some will allow their true selves to be seen by the R&F.
They are usually simonized by the biggest ass kissers on the body (usually the coordinator and secretary) and only listen to these ones when asking about the congregation. These are also the same guys you see giving parts on the Circuit/Special and District assemblies , the COs believe every word that they say. If you are an elder and don't go out during his "god's gift to you" week of activity you are essentially ignored. Essentially they are regional managers of a cultish, book publishing corporation, sent into the "retail outlets" twice a year to check on the Store manager (COBOE or other ass kisser) and the assistant manager (secretary or other major ass kisser).
These CO's are also not the poor, faithful brothers we think they are. If they get assigned to the right circuit i.e. somewhere in the Tri-State area of NYC they will clean up. Especially in the more affluent suburbs. I estimate based on what my wife forces me to give these yaya's when they come by that on average he will get anywhere from $400-600 just from our elders. Add to that the Minsterial Servants (especially prospective elders) and other publishers and he most likely rakes in $1000 for a week of b/s with us. thats 1 congregation in a circut of 14 or so. They have a choice appartment paid for that they live in, free utilities, gas, insurance, dry cleaning....you get the idea. Now granted this probably isnt the case for every CO in the world or in the U.S. but they do rotate so I am sure eventually they all get assigned to these certain areas at some point.
i am interested in the answers for a new poll.
also, feel free to suggest other options, wording etc.agreed in full with the watchtower guidelinesagreed with shunning in general, but not for familywas stumbled by this practice but shunned as instructeddid not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people .
for me personally, i did not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people, even whilst at bethel.
Pre 1998 full support without question. Post 1998 (especially 2002) shunning is total, 100% b/s designed to quiet dissenters and keep people from learning TTATT.
feels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
Welcome. I look forward to your exit process so please share. I am on a slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww fade myself.
i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
Welcome. I am still in but been reading and posting here for 10 yrs, It definitely helps me cope. Enjoy your stay!
another wt article which causes jw's to doubt their own perceptions of reality.
) in this particular article titled " for those loving jehovah, " there is no stumbling block " - the wt society stoops to new, or rather re-hashed lows to insinuate that most if not all jw's really misunderstand causes of stumbling as it's just their minds that are imperfect, messed up, or gone entirely anyway.
the first abhorrent bit of information here describes a witness man who " fought " with feelings of being homosexual and of course the elders thought they had the perfect antidote to keep him from his alleged " abnormal " desires.
Two elders visited him and listened sympathetically, without interrupting, while he related his story, AS HE PERCEIVED IT.
What they meant to say is they let their minds wander because they could give a rat's ass about his problem. Sympathetically, really? Ex elders are generally treated as scum. Especially ones that step aside because of an issue on the body of elders. Who is the WTS kidding with this b/s.
I recall 1 CO asking about someone who stepped aside to the rest of us and it was explained by our PO the issue he had, the CO's response: "so he is just a complainer with a bad attitude, is that correct?, just keep an eye on him"
that is my question...anyone ever investigated this?....because i sure have not read anything in the bible that even hints on a congregation having judicial committee procedures...has anyone had any experience with this topic?.
No basis for it and no precedent set forth in scripture detailing it at all. I think its just a way to weed out honest hearted dissenters i.e. apostates.
