There will always be people trying to figure out the proper pronunciation of Gods name.
Just like there will always be people trying to figure out what the scriptures really mean.
The bottom line is this.
If God wanted His name to be known and used, He would have made it perfectly clear.
The fact that people have been trying to guess what the Tetragrammaton really means proves that God didn't mean for people to use His name.
Of course this is just my opinion.
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The pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton according to Gérard Gertoux
by Narkissos insome time ago i stumbled across a book by french author gerard gertoux, about the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.
the book was also published in english (cf.
the author's site at http://gertoux.online.fr/divinename/) .
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Turn away from these wicked ways!
by Proud Witness inwell as you would have guessed from my name, i am a proud witness and i feel obliged to preach to you about the promises that our wonderful creator, jehovah god, has promised each and every one of us, of any race or background.
i know that you already know what he has told us through his word, but i am curious to wonder why you have chosen to jump off the narrow road which leads to everlasting life.
is it because you have had a bad experience in god's organization?
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Thank Jehovah that you're here Proud Witness.
I've been trying to fight off these evil, disgusting apostates.
They just won't listen to reason brother. Or is it sister?
They just don't understand that Jehovah is behind the WTS 100%.
Just because they have changed their teachings 100 million times doesn't mean that God is not backing them.
Just because people died following those teachings doesn't mean God is not backing the WTS.
Just because the WTS has predicted dates for the end of this system and has gotten them all wrong doen't mean God is not backing the WTS.
Just because the WTS is ignoring the commands of Jesus about taking care of the homeless,feeding the poor, helping the elderly and stuff like this doesn't mean that God is not backing the WTS.
Just because the teachings that the WTS is teaching now will get changed in a couple of years doesn't mean that God is not backing the WTS.
Proud Witness. I keep telling these walking dead that there is a lot of proof that Jehovah is using the WTS.
Now help a brother out Proud Witness. Explain to these foolish, evil slave, bad people what the proof is.
That's all you have to do!
Explain, show the proof that Jehovah God is using the WTS and I'm sure many of these good for nothing varmits will turn from their evil ways and return to the loving orginization that we warmly refer to as Mother.
What is the proof?
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Is it Just Me?
by Yerusalyim in.
is it just me or does simon's new avatar make him look like something out of a monty python skit?.
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Don't you guys know?
That is the new 'APOSTATE' look.
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Why is it even ex JW's run scared when they hear the word apostate?
by happehanna ini just told them where i work as a volunteer, that i am going to a workshop for those that have left a cult tomorrow.
they were all fascinated and wanted to know which cult i had belonged to.
i said jw's and this one guy said i he used to be one of them.
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The WTS has spent a lot of time and effort to instill in their followers the belief that anyone labeled an apostate is part of the evil slave class.
And of course there is no in between with the WTS.
To them, there are only two classes.
The Faithfull and discreet slave and the good for nothing evil slave.
So you know that the die hard JW that believes the WTS speaks for God will certainly believe that apostates are just as evil as the devil himself.
Untill the JWs see the WTS for what it really is, they will continue to believe this garbage.
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RUSSIA: Sacked for being Jehovah's Witnesses
by blondie inthis article was published by f18news on: 4 may 2004russia: sacked for being jehovah's witnesses
by geraldine fagan, moscow correspondent, forum 18 news service
sergei popov and aleksandr takhteyev, two of three jehovah's witnesses sacked on 1 april by a private firm on the russian pacific island of sakhalin, claimed to forum 18 news service that there was a direct link between the decision to sack them and the ban on the jehovah's witnesses in the russian capital imposed by a moscow court several days earlier.
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As undercover stated:
"JWs or not, this is not good. Human and civil rights are at issue here."
It's a shame that this type of thing happens to any group. However, when dealing with a group that does lie (spiritual warfare) to anyone including ceasar,they could be viewed as suspicious.
Don't forget. We're talking about a group that has let people die. ie: organ transplants, blood transfusions. Was it because the Bible says to do it? No.
It's because the WTS said to do it.
We're talking about a group that will do anything the WTS tells them to do. They have gone to the point of kidnapping their children out of hospitals if they're in there for blood transfusions because the WTS has told them to do it.
We're talking about a group that has turned their backs on their own family members.
Is it because those family members are evil and down right no good? No.
Because the WTS tells them to.
We're talking about a group that puts the authority of the WTS over everthing.
Because the WTS tells them that they have that authority.
We're talking about a group that reports confidential information to the leaders of the group. Thereby breaking the law and commiting a fireable offense.
Because the WTS tells them to.
We can go on and on. The bottom line is the WTS controls every aspect of a JWs life.
If the WTS tells them to jump, they say how high.
Because the Bible would say to do it? No.
Because the WTS tells them they have the authority to do it.
I don't know about you, but I don't know if I would trust a JW with anything important.
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are you crazy?
by dh inscatter brained or just generally out of it?
or are you a stable individual?
do you like to do stupid stuff like post topics about nothing?
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A crazy person is anyone that thinks they are sane and everyone else is crazy.
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SHOULD YOU BELONG TO A CHURCH? - June 1st WT
by Mary inoh god........for those of you who don't have access to all the latest spiritual food
page 1 "...were the flood survivors simply individuals fortunate enough to have randomly escaped destruction?
the bible account shows that this was not the case.
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They are using the same fear tactic they have always used.
If you want to survive, you must belong to us.
That is the message that IS preached from door to door in the WTS preaching work.
So they are saying that no matter how wrong they have been in their teachings, how blood guilty they are and have been do to needless deaths arising from their teachings, how unChristian they are, how they are literally going against the scriptures that state what Christs followers would be doing to show they are His followers, that they and they alone are whom God is using.
If that's the case, why did Jesus have to die?
Why did Jesus bother telling us thru the scriptures, what His true followers would be doing?
Why do the scriptures say those calling on the name of Jesus WILL be saved?
The Scriptures that state many false Christs will appear.
The WTS IS one of the many false Christs.
All a person has to do to see this is to look at the fruits they produce now and have produced over the years.
Depresion, suicide, mental illness, lies and deciet, peoples lives being ruined, child molestation, mistreatment of the flock, they have stolen the childhood from children and turned them into little salespeople, paranoia, loss of natural love and afection, they have destroyed the ability of independent thought, they have turned their followers
zombies, needless deaths,ect...ect..ect.....
Are these the fruits Jesus spoke of as being produced by His followers?
They ARE a false Christ. Saying come to us and you will be saved.
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Do you still preach?
by Theocrat inmany here are not jehovah's witnesses anymore because of one reason or another, but do you still preach?
do you still think that it is important for a christian to preach?
just wondering.
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Afin,
You don't need to discuss the hardships you've had to endure because there are many people that have had nightmare filled lives but they aren't competing with other people to see who had the hardest time.
Let's get back to the title of the thread. Shall we?
I asked a question of Theo that perhaps you can answer.
What are the fruits of the WTS preaching work?
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Do you still preach?
by Theocrat inmany here are not jehovah's witnesses anymore because of one reason or another, but do you still preach?
do you still think that it is important for a christian to preach?
just wondering.
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Larc made a good point:
"The problem with the Witnesses is that everyone has to fit into one mold, that of preaching. Some are not good at it, and they could be more useful filling another role."
Even the scriptures attest to this.
As far as the preaching work being done by the followers of the WTS, what are the fruits of that preaching?
Theo, can you answer this?
I think the answer to this will demonstrate that just because a group is doing some kind of preaching work, it doesn't necesarily mean they are preaching a true gospel.
Jesus said: By their fruits, you will know them.
Theo, what are the fruits of the WTS preaching work?
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An honest estimate of ourselves.... (long)
by Theocrat ingod says: ?blessed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in jehovah, and whose confidence jehovah has become.?
a governing body that made decisions based on the scriptures and blessed by jehovah!
now, he is once again serving as a christian elder.
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So you're advocating going back to the WTS in order to please God?
Do you equate worshipping a man made and man run orginization with worshipping God?
With the many scriptures you use, do you not remember the scriptures that state what to do with a false prophet?
The WTS has proven to be a false prophet.
Do you not remember the scriptures that describe true followers of Jesus and what they would be doing?
The WTS does none of it.
What about their many,many,many changes in teachings over the years?
God does not change and He certainly wouldn't demand that false teachings be believed as a test only to change His teachings later on.
Are you saying that you believe that the needless deaths caused by WTS teachings were aproved by God?
The WTS changed the teachings later on. Too bad for those that followed them tho.
Are you saying the only thing acceptable to God is to attend the many sales,WTS meetings and going out trying to sell useless literature that helps no one?
Are you saying that we must be enslaved to a book publishing company to show our loyalty to God?
Funny but no matter how much I looked, I could not find that in the scriptures. I even checked the NWT.
If being enslaved to a book publishing company was what is pleasing to God, He would have made that clear. Don't you think so?
The WTS has proven what they really are. And they certainly have nothing to do with pleasing God.
But if you can show us why belonging to the WTS, even with all the facts proving they are an unChristian denomination, is a must in pleasing God then by all means do so.
Otherwise you're just using a sales pitch for the WTS. But you must remember that most here have already investigated the history, false teachings, false date setting, and unChristian practices of the WTS.
So acording to the scriptures, we are not to have anything to do with such an orginization.
BTW. Did you know that the name Jehovah is not Gods name?
Even in the Aid book, I think, the WTS admits the name came from a Catholic monk.
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