Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

by ExCircuitOverseer in

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here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

i had actually become a circuit overseer!

dropoffyourkeylee

Thanks for sharing your life story!

I don't know of Suen, but I have observed a similar pattern many times in the JW world. The WT has a way of attracting a certain type of person who has a phenomenal way of reaching people. It is definitely a gift, and these ones would make great salesmen or politicians. They have a way of speaking with the greatest of confidence and can sell iceboxes to to the Eskimo. It's more of a motivational sales skill rather than a religious one. The WT would have collapsed many times over the years if not for these slick salesmen.

Other organizations have the same sort of person. I watched a video recently about a MLM scheme from one of their motivational sales meetings, and I thought, Yep, it's the same thing.

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Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold

by AdamCzarnobay in

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i was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.

it's now a mosque.

this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..

dropoffyourkeylee

Considering the question of a JW business person refusing to work for a church, I have maintained for years that the WT stance is illegal (US). Of course if a church advertises for a job opening like bookkeeper, custodian, etc, a JW could simply not fill out an application, easy enough. But a business owner, something like a building service such as sound system repair, carpet cleaning, plumber, etc, could easily end up in court for discrimination. Both federal (1964 Civil Rights Act) and state laws prohibit a service business from refusing service based on religion, along with race, color, sex and national origin. On this basis, when the WT requires a service businessperson to refuse work for a religious institution, they are forcing the person to break the law.

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Elders, Jews and Dead Bunnies

by KalebOutWest in

i thought i would give my personal experience on who i am, how i came into the world of watchtower, why i left, etc.

this would explain a lot about the answers i give and why they don't directly reflect my personal convictions (like a normal person--and i do mean that literally, kinda).

i cannot put everything here, but i can start bit by bit.. when i was 17 years old, my mother was on her third marriage and kinda starting her fourth (as she was dating this surfer dude-like guy who wasn't even 5 years older than me).

dropoffyourkeylee

Awesome stories!

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Interesting bit of Watch Tower history

by vienne in

two images of allegheny city and a challenge.

see https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ the newest post.

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dropoffyourkeylee

About ten to fifteen years ago there was a guy who self-published/ reprinted Angels and Women (with some modifications) and had it for sale on Lulu. I don't recall his name, but for some reason he credited me (or rather a webpage I had authored) in helping him to identify the author of Seola. She was Ann Eliza Brainerd (Mrs J.G. Smith). I think she was deceased by the time the Bible Student reprinted and revised it as Angels and Women. The republished Angels and Women was a thinly disguised advertisement for Russell's Studies in the Scriptures, with numerous footnotes directing the reader to the Studies.

As a youngster I used to read all kinds of science fiction, and the SF of the late 1800's was kind of fanciful to modern readers, but Seola was not unusual for the time. In my opinion, Mrs. Smith's fiction fell into the SF genre of the pre-1900 time period and was simply that, works of fiction.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

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this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

dropoffyourkeylee

My guess is that the WT is only interested in having the JW name the WT as heir to any remaining retirement funds in their wills

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Interesting bit of Watch Tower history

by vienne in

two images of allegheny city and a challenge.

see https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ the newest post.

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dropoffyourkeylee

Cool,

The second article about Angels and Women was interesting too. I'm sure that book has been discussed on this site before. I have read it from a library loan. My mom read it about the time she was studying in the early '60s, apparently her teacher thought at the time it was good reading for her bible study.

I looked for a copy of Seola some years ago but wasn't able to find one. I do have another book by the same author Mrs J G Smith. I think it is called 'Atla'

Fanciful fiction of the time period

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

dropoffyourkeylee

Awful. My deepest condolences to the families of the deceased and injured.

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Pidgin English

by markweatherill in

https://www.jw.org/hwc.

i just discovered this translation into 'hawai'i pidgin' and for some reason found it very amusing.

they even dubbed the caleb and sophia cartoons into this dialect.. not because i look down on pidgin speakers in any way, more about the way translations like this are revealing and telling in unintended ways..

dropoffyourkeylee

I had a subscription to the Solomon Islands Pidgin Watchtower way back in the Eighties. As kids we had great fun with it.

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new book

by vienne in

you may be interested in this research: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2024/12/grave-matters.html.

this is a brief history of the watch tower cemetery where russell is buried.

i read it this morning.

dropoffyourkeylee

Cool! I was at the site last year and I'm glad to see some history about it. I'll have to check it out.

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Convention attendance

by joe134cd in

just heard from a pimi cousin who recently attended a convention, and remarked about the low attendance.

peak was about 500. i remember that circuit, in years past, had attendances of 1000+.

it's been over a decade now since i last attended a jw convention.

dropoffyourkeylee

In these parts they gerrymander the circuits so that the one-day convention has a similar attendance as they used to. The local congregation has been moved to different circuits twice that I recall in the last three years.