brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
OR you could say,..
"Brothers I hate to bring this up but I've heard, via the grapevine, that some of the things you ask young sisters, and possibly for some of you, young brothers details, explicit details about sexual liasons that they have experienced all under the guise of it being Judicially required. Is there ever a time that you might not feel comfortable standing up just after these inquireys"
NJY
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
Marking,..for later view at my own leisure,...
NJY
this time i mean it.. thanks for all the ones that love me .
i am getting off the site after all these years.. anghard & simon .
but of late.
Even though I never got to interact too much with you, I wish you well with your future aspirations.
You always have the right to change your mind, we're allowed to do that since we have broken free from the WTBTS lol
Take care,
NJY aka Scummydross on JehovahsWitnessrecovery.com
was reflecting on the instructions that are given pretty regularly to make the truth your own, prove it to ourselves, and address any doubts we might have.
why would jws get this advice when the result of any honest search would lead one to exactly where most of us here are?
i can think of two answers.. first, it's somewhat like being on a tour at a public attraction.
The Dubs will think "If they did not have the truth then why would they ask us to verfy it? And since they are asking us to verify it, they must infact have the truth. And since they have the truth, I do not need to actually verify it, why waste the time, since they have the truth"
We did not run when the JWs asked us "Tell me if this rag smells like chloroform"
NJY
my mom is a recent widow.
she, being a jw does not have means to support herself and does not seek higher education ( because that would take from her studies ).
so, she is living ( sponging off of ) me.
I would surely inocualte your children on the side about the Cult status of your children explaining how Cults use fear etc to control their members. Show them some books or websites that mention that the JWs are a cult group and how they use fear, demons etc .
Then explain how your mother is under thought control from this group. Hopefully if you can explain it to the children then each time that she tries to share some JW scare tactics they can use that occasion to reflect back on the things they you have taught them about the JWs and mond control. There is no way that your Mother will stop sharing the things she beleives about Jehovah to her grandchildren as it is HARD WIRED into her brain. She just will do it when your not there.
If this does not work, by a Ouija board and play some creepy sounds throughout the house until she gets too scared to stay.
What ever happens, you need to break this cycle of belief from getting put into your childrens minds at all cost.
NJY
we know that wt has been inflating the hours spent for a long time so that their "growth" looks good on paper and for bragging rights.
here is a quote from the 2008 km:.
*** km 9/08 p. 3 question box ***.
Here is some info from JWFACTS.com
" In 1969 there was one baptism for every 1,983 hours of preaching. During the 1980s it had risen to 3,000 hours. From 1990 to 2005 the number of hours preaching required per baptism increased from 3000 to 5000, an increase of 60%.
More significant is the number of hours required for an additional publisher. Due to the large increase in Witnesses leaving the religion, the number of hours preaching required per additional publisher has doubled from 4,000 in the early 1990's to over 8,000 since 2000. The difference from 1991 and 2005 from 4,000 to 16,000 is 400%."
Here is the page it was taken from, lots of great number crunching on that page.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
NJY
or the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
The generation change on 2010 was a biggie for me as well. I only heard about it at a family gathering and the others were discussing it and I was like "Excuse me, can you explain what your talking about?" as I had an usual job at the time and missed the Watchtower and Assembly part where these would have been discussed.
I kinda blew a gassket right then and there saying things like "you have got to be kidding me, really?!!" I had a few chuckles like this is ludicrus (sp?) when I caught myself and stopped as the others there did not find it so amusing, they were looking at me like I was crazy for not believing it. (invasion of the body snatchers kinda feeling) Internally I was thinking " How do any of you REALLY believe this hogwash!!! you have got to be kidding me, this is so obvious that they are making these things up as they go along"
So I ask my wife later why did she not fill me in on this new light and she said that she knew how I always reacted to new light from the WTBTS and did not want to rock my boat as it were.
I do remember having a reaction back around 1995 to the generation change but cannot truly remember what the teaching was prior to that and also what exactly changed about it in that year.
NJY
i do not know if anyone has ever asked this question before.. if you live in a state where it is legal to smoke marijuana with a prescription, will the congregation take any action against a member of it that smokes it?
i imagine that they wouldn't disfellowship anyone, but it may not make the person eligible for priveleges.. has there been any letter from hq to the boes about it?.
i am just curious.. zed.
Maybe if confronted by the elders about using you coud argue that you had read in the bible, and the WTBTS has printed that some first century Christians "got stoned"
NJY
this article made my day.
it looks like paris jackson and her brother prince michael have told katherine they simply aren't interested in peddling jw stuff from door-to-door any more.
i'm glad they are becoming their own people and emerging from their grandmother's control.. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/paris-jackson-prince-michael-jackson-jehovas-witness/.
Maybe "Logan's Shun".
NJY
new july 2013 awake says this on page 3:.
"there is a 14 percent greater probability that a person over 60 years of age will die on his birthday rather than on other days.".
wow, they have now proven that birthdays are pagan and not fit for christians!.
Maybe it was due to second hand fires, I mean 60 candles a burning.
I think also one of the Bible stories about a person being "hung" on his birthday was out of context.
NJY
