Errm - JWs don't believe in hell do they??
At least they didn't all the 23 years I was involved with it!
Isn't Uboat Ninja sweet? You have got to hand it to him folks - he did try!!
Nowfree
all you apostates will burn in hell when jehovah returns.
Errm - JWs don't believe in hell do they??
At least they didn't all the 23 years I was involved with it!
Isn't Uboat Ninja sweet? You have got to hand it to him folks - he did try!!
Nowfree
remember when you were a dub and hated to go out in service.
well i'm a df'd dub and i got my own message that i've printed up and i've been going to all the kingdumb hall i know and working the territory that surrounds the kingdumb hall with this tract, and the response is totally great, here is the tract i use:.
jehovahs witnesses keep coming to your door because they dont want you to be destroyed at armagedon.. all members believe they belong to the only true religion and every religion except theirs is from the devil, and that god will destroy you for not being a jehovahs witness at armagedon.. you must serve the watchtower and let the watchtower control your life or die eternally that is what the jehovahs witness believe.. .
To be honest I think most people (ie those who have never been involved with JWs) just think that JWs are annoying. Always knocking on your door on a Saturday. But the average person in the street doesn't know much ABOUT the witnesses - at least not enough to throw back in their faces (apart from the blood issue of course).
But now they will have a REASON to DISLIKE them, and have a bit more to say to the unsuspecting witness when they call on the door!
Excellent!!
i've bolded a couple of points.
questions unanswered in deaths of family.
jim tankersley.
As I live in the UK, I haven't heard much about this tragic incident.
When did it happen?
Nowfree
honestly, i read the first paragraph and burst out laughing.
do they not have a clue that this applies to their own followers??.
i've included the first article, and am mid-way through transcribing the second one, which i'll finish tomorrow when i come home from work.. feel free to comment too!.
Good idea Anglise - we'll start a Parkers guide to religion:
Don't forget we'll need to include an "insurance" group rating - so people know what they are likely to lose by joining a particular religion/sect.
Also a resume at the start of each new religion, outlining changes in policy/doctrines over the last 100 years.
Methinks a particular mind controlling cult that we all know and love will not come out of this too well!!!
Nowfree
honestly, i read the first paragraph and burst out laughing.
do they not have a clue that this applies to their own followers??.
i've included the first article, and am mid-way through transcribing the second one, which i'll finish tomorrow when i come home from work.. feel free to comment too!.
It never ceases to amaze me that the person/people who write these articles don't for ONE MOMENT let themselves ask the obvious point "could this possibly apply to our religion as well?"
Do they have proof readers? And if they do, are they just checking for correct punctuation rather than content???
Thanks for posting the article Scully!
Nowfree
another thread on the wt may 1st 2002 issue.. jehovah hates the course of treachery.
in a thinly veiled attack on the likes of youknow the society issues this proclamation to jws who dare to say anything out of line with the watchtower bullshit and tossers society:.
10. are we personally alert, so that no unrighteousness is found on our lips?
So if the WBTS are planting doubts in all JW minds to be automatically distrustful of each other, then we could take the advantage of the old saying "Divide and conquer".
If a JW replies that "brother Elder said this", we could reply "well if you applying the May 1 WT, can you really TRUST what he is saying?"
Hahahahah - this sounds like fun!
Nowfree
i must confess that her ladyship and i lived together for 6 months before we got married, so that must be, er...say 200?.
then we used to spend 3 nights a week gambling in tiberiuss casino, even after we got married, so.....umm, say another 250?.
i must have eaten black pudding, say, 100 times?.
My DFing offences would be:
Celebrating xmas
Celebrating birthdays
Celebrating mothers day
Celebrating fathers day
Celebrating valentines day
Reading "apostate" (for that read "factual and accurate") literature
Socialising with "disorderly" and "disfellowshipped" individuals.
oh and one small minor thing - Taking my husband to court to prevent him bringing up our daughter as a JW.
Why hasn't anyone disfellowshipped me yet?
Nowfree
sometimes i think about all the time i waisted as a witness and it makes me shudder.. i don't want to dwell on negative things but , what the hell i'm happy today.
i'd thought i'd try and work out how much time i've lost.. i was brought on on the org and left at 27.. if i spent an average (even as a child in a pushchair) of 5 hours in meetings 1 hour either side getting ready travelling etc(so thats 3).1 hour studying for meetings and talks etc.2 hours on the minsistry.. that gives me a rought average of 11 hours a week.
( really it takes up more time than this).
Another way to look at the time spent as a JW:
You are now 27 years old.
You have left a mind controlling cult at a relatively young age.
You know you will never ever go back to it.
You will now spend the rest of your life doing what YOU want to do and not what you are TOLD you want to do.
If you had never been a JW, then you might reach a crisis in your life at perhaps age 35, come across Jehovah's Witnesses - think it sounds a "nice" religion and join. Only to realise at the age of maybe 55 that you have made a mistake.
To start your life again at 55 is more difficult ( I would think??) than at age 27.
Nowfree
now please bear with me on this.
i came across this information in a book.
i'm not trying to preach to anyone, but just wanted to share with you all what i learned (and some that i already knew).
They also treat individuals like Circuit Overseers like gods.
I remember all the running around, panicking, making sure everything was in order. All the report cards uptodate. Everyone out in field service and at meetings for that one week. Everyone answering up at the meetings. And why?
Just because it was the CO visit.
Don't they realise that, if God exists (and i am not going into that one), that he would see everything that goes on ALL THE TIME??
They miss the whole point.
Nowfree
i've been depressed big time over all the fights, attacks, flame wars, bickering, complaining and what have you that seems to dominate the board these days.. i've just decided that there is no point in my bringing down myself any further and that i don't have anything of value to offer here, especially since it takes as much emotional effort to insulate myself from my friends behaving badly, that i just can't seem to offer much in the way of positive vibes.. i will check back some time (maybe a month or so0 down the road to see if this place has gotten any more mellow and friendly but until then.... hasta la vista and the best of luck to you.
any who wants can still drop me email.. goodbye,.
skipper
Sorry to hear that you are leaving the board Mindchild.
Unfortunately there are some posters who are just here to pick a fight with others. Personally I try and steer clear of them.
I find the board helpful because it reinforces to me that i am not the only person in the world who has BIG problems with the WTBTS, and the control it has over others, particularly family members who are still in. Otherwise I could just think it is me being "picky" with some of the teachings I don't agree with.
I hope you are happy in whatever you decide to do know.
Nowfree