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  Why is the Memorial so important to JWs?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
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  seriously.... there's a meeting where wt dogma is taught... nothing unusual there.... they pass around bread and wine and in the vast majority of khs no one at all partakes.. if anything, it is a pantomime of wt teaching that the "great crowd" of "other sheep" have no part in the blood and body of christ.. hardly something to celebrate....

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  "...the body of servers approach and are individually served with the bread, they then go among the audience who are all afraid of dropping it and have to maintain a respectful silence....each plate is handed carefully back to the speaker .....The last server ceremonially "serves" the speaker who gives in back before getting it in return to place on the table....Then the whole thing is done again with the wine.." - BluesBrother

  I had often had a similar thought. Why the hell is it so important for the "Other Sheep" present to each hold the emblem and pass it. It's very cermemonial, which the hold Lord's Evening Meal is, but just asenine. It's as if you have offended Jehovah or Jesus by not holding and refusing to partake.

  It would save a whole lot of time if the speaker just said,"Is anyone going to partake? No? Ok. Please stand as we sing song number..."
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  Did field service ever scare any one.

  by life is to short in

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  2. beliefs

  i was always scared somewhat by who i might meet at the door.. where i live we just had a mom murdered with her two young sons.

  it is really sad, from what i just read in the paper the husband and wife took in this young man he was 22 years old and needed a place to stay.

  he had been with them for months and had celebrated christmas and thanksgiving with all the family, etc.

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  A couple of years after I moved out of state my mother told me of 2 sisters from the local Spanish congregation who were kidnapped out in service. I checked the on-line version of the local newspaper. It was much worse than how she told me.

  These sisters were taken by knife point into a vehicle, completely disrobed, and one was raped. They both escaped and ran away before he could rape the second sister. This all occurred at the public park near the house I lived in when I lived in that state.

  So much for anti-rape angels.
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  Hindu Prayer Interrupted In Senate By Christians

  by whereami in

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  2. friends

  can't you just feel the christian love people!!!!.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1onhsr58es&sns=em.

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  This type of behavior makes me angry and ashamed. The United States of America was not founded by Christians and Christian values. The founders of our nation were dieists. Some have even speculated that if Charles Darwin had been born 100 years earlier our nation's founders would be aethiests.
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  Well, I guess I am marked now...

  by garyneal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife did a talk last night at the kingdom hall concerning how a god of love could kill people.

  she asked me to come with her because she wanted the emotional support.

  i agreed and we were all on the way.

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  truth_b_known

  So, is Brother Hero saying that the ancient Israelites didn't go to temple, but rather went to their local Kingdom Hall?

  As far as Matthew 24:14 & 28:19, 20 I get more baptists knocking on my door than I do Jehovah's Witnesses.

  And I love Brother Hero's line of "you don't understand things now, but in time you will." Is that code for: "We'll brainwash you"?
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  Awake openly mocked on website...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/02/5_hilarious_social_media_image.php.

  this is actually not a former witness or anything, this is a cracked style article.

  i think it's pretty funny, i think it's evidence that the wt is not going to be around forever.

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  truth_b_known

  I read this post and had a great laugh.

  Then I came home from work and found these magazines sitting in my house when I got home. I laughed at first. Then I thumbed through them. I believe it is the Watchtower that had an article about what to do if one of your kids do not want to be part of your religion. A box on the second page of the article looked liked:

  "Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses force their child to be a part of their religion."

  I got so pissed off I ran out to the garbage can and through them in it. That upset me even more because now my garbage bin will smell like bullshit.
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  StandFirm Says The Watchtower Society Has Never Lied!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check it out:.

  http://stayawake-standfirm.blogspot.com/2011/04/watchtower-society-has-never-lied.html.

  standfirms disclaimer is that the definition of a lie is: "to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive"-emphasis added.. of course, other definitions of lie include: .

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  Stand Firm would have us believe that a "false prophet" is only a false prophet if the person intentionally deceived people. So, as long as a person believes their own bullshit they are not a liar. I tend to believe this logic. At least the liar part.

  However, intent is not the issue. To recklessly express ideas as facts when they are false is still being a false prophet. The higher crime is that if you don't accept the flavor of the week as the "Truth" as present by the Watchtower you will be punished.
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  Letter About Meeting Disruptions

  by Bangalore in

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  truth_b_known

  I love how it says that if the disruptor physically attacks a member of the congregation, that member may use force to defend himslef. So, in other words: If you're getting your ass kicked, don't expect any help. Everyone else will just standby and watch.

  It's ok to call the police to handle someone disrupting a meeting, but don't you dare call them if a brother is molesting the children in the congregation.
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  Me Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee

  by Tater-T in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  trying to learn to post pictures on here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/205431/1/how-to-post-a-photo-here.

  and i've done all this and it doesn't work.

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  truth_b_known

  Rush is the greatest band of all time. I've always wanted to meet the guys in the band. I started playing music because of the song "Spirit of Radio".

  My dad gave me grief for having Rush albums. He stated that the band's name advocated narcotics use. Like a typical Witness, he found joy finding fault in anything not from the WTB&TS, even if it was a stretch of the imagination (i.e. bullshit).
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  Awake openly mocked on website...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/02/5_hilarious_social_media_image.php.

  this is actually not a former witness or anything, this is a cracked style article.

  i think it's pretty funny, i think it's evidence that the wt is not going to be around forever.

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  A truly great article. It is priceless!
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  Pre-emptive shunning - a growing reality

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm scanning through some of the results from the 2012 jw survey as they're coming in.. the most populous of the six voting categories with 76 voters so far is my own category, for those who are inactive, or "faded/fading" (not disfellowshipped or da'd, but no longer reporting time on the ministry).. one statistic already leaping out at me surrounds the question "do you experience 'pre-emptive shunning' from active witnesses, who view you as 'bad association'?

  " of the 74 who voted on this so far, 76% have answered "yes" to this question.. it's early days, and obviously i will have a clearer picture of the extent of the problem once the survey closes at the end of the year.

  however, the results already in suggest that pre-emptive shunning is widespread among inactive ones, despite this not being an "official" policy of the society.. i was interested in your opinions as to why this may be?

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  truth_b_known

  My family was victim to this.

  We were in the midst of an unintentional slow fade. My work schedule was the main contributing factor to our low meeting attendance. Having to work 2 to 3 double shifts on the weekend to make ends meet killed our field service participation.

  We attended a one-day special assembly, which I had to trade and work a double shift just to attend, and I noticed that those whom my family associated with seemed rather distant. The big giveaway was after the afternoon session. Traditionally we always got an invite to go out to dinner. This time we didn't. In fact, all of our friends in the congregation were going to the same restaurant. No one invited us.

  What gets me is the fact that the Watch Tower Society thinks this shunning garbage works as a pre-emptive way to get members to change. On the contrary; that was the finally nail in the coffin for my wife, who was not a born-in. I started down the road of an intentional fade from that point forward.