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  Discussion with my dad about 607 in a week,,,,help?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  so to make a long story short, my family found out about my "apostacy"(i couldn't take it anymore) and now everything is all in shambles.

  they still feel there is "hope" for me.

  (ha!).

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  http://ed5015.tripod.com/Jw1260Days107.htm
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  Discussion with my dad about 607 in a week,,,,help?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  so to make a long story short, my family found out about my "apostacy"(i couldn't take it anymore) and now everything is all in shambles.

  they still feel there is "hope" for me.

  (ha!).

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  truth_b_known

  Just a couple of pointers:

  1) Lay some ground rules. No Watch Tower publications may be used as proof. Watch Tower publications refernce other writings. Tell him to use those writings.

  2) Show him that the whole concept of 1914 came from William Miller whom Charles Russell followed and believed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_(preacher)

  3) Show him that Charles Taze Russell, a Freemason, got the 1914 date from his measurements of the Great Pyramid of Egypt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
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  satan v jehovah

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thinking about these two characters you know.... the bible tells us what jehovah says satan is about and wants to do.. it also tells us what jehovah says he (jehovah) will do and his actions of what he has done.. the bible tells us of all the murder and mayhem cause by the israelites as they genocided their way through the middle east.. and who told them do this these evil deeds?.

  and why hasn't satan appeared on the late show to say..."you know guys, iv'e had a bad rap over the years so i thought i'd pop in and tell my side of the story".... oz.

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  Hail Thor Odison!
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  Question about 2 Tim. 3:16

  by beenthere2 in

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  2. beliefs

  regarding 2 tim.

  3:16, "all scripture is inspired by god".....since the only scripture at the time this was written was the old testament (hebrew scriptures, if you prefer), would it make sense to reason that this scripture cannot be used by itself to support new testament writings?....that the scriptures referred to in this verse were the old testament?.

  as an apostle paul had authority, but to me it seems that some of the things paul wrote were related as "commands" to the congregations, whereas other things were only his suggestions or his perspective and that it was up to the individuals to decide for themselves.. your thoughts on this?.

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  If "all scripture is inspired" would that not include apocryphal books, as well? After all, the Bible canon was decided centuries after the last book was written. Not to mention, it was a council of church leaders who basically voted on what books to put in and which to leave out.
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  JW Membership (The Truth)

  by jbeau504 in

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  alright so i know this is a tricky subject.

  but i'm curious to know right now more than anything.... i keep hearing that the number of jws around the world is growing.

  is this true?

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  "The Watchtower explains the Last Days have continued so long as Jehovah desires all to attain to repentance. If only active Jehovahs Witnesses will be saved then this Scripture does not make sense. On average, over 200,000 people are born everyday, but the number of active Jehovah's Witnesses increases by only 224 (2005 daily increase in average publishers). Each day that Armageddon delays requires Jehovah to destroy an extra 200,000 people."

  Wow! What a shocking figure. That totally changes one's perception of the big picture.
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  Attended 2-Day Circuit Assembly--Highlights

  by Cadellin in

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  since my spouse is an active elder, i accompany him to sads, cas and das, at least for the time being.

  anyway, i thought i'd share some of the more odd/disturbing bits from the latest "sanctify god's name" ca.

  there wasn't anything particularly new but the tone toward porn, higher ed, bad assoc, "habitual" murmuring and harmful gossip is definitely hardening, as are the cautions against social networking.

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  1 : in an evident manner :clearly, obviously <any style … so evidently bad or second-rate — T. S. Eliot> 2 : on the basis of available evidence <he was born…evidently in Texas — Robert Coughlan>

  The "overlapping" generation is not obvious otherwise that would have been the definition from day 1 and I know of no evidence.
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  At last....I made the connection with an old friend...who is a practising Pagan

  by Pams girl in

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  2. experiences

  im the nervy, anxious type.

  i suffer with panic attacks and sometimes my agoraphobia cripples me.

  the organisation effectively isolated me fo a long time.

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  Pams girl:

  I am very happy for you. I, too, have reconnected with old and dear friends who were born-in Witnesses and then left the organization. One of them is also now a practicing pagan.

  I do not like the term "pagan" as it means "country dweller" and was used as an insult by christians towards those who practiced their native religion. Most of us can trace our ancestors back to someone who was not christian and was later converted by pain of death. I now honor my ancestors by wearing amulets of Odin and Thor.
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  Memorial Attendance – Need an Advice Please

  by Yan Bibiyan in

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  2. beliefs

  quick background info i am an ubm, studied somewhat, never baptized.

  mrs. bibyan is a successful fader her last kh attendance was the special talk after last years memorial.

  no grief from the local congo for missing; the elderette she was friends with would call or stop by once in a while, but no harassment.. the other day, mrs. tells me out of the blue she wants to go to the memorial.

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  Do not do or say anything that shows you disaprove of her attending. Be supportive of your wife's decision. She needs to figure this out on her own.

  If I were in your shows and my wife asked me to go with her I would, but only for that reason. If Witnesses were to speak to me and ask me questions I would be brief, but honest. I would just say that I have no interest and I am simply supporting my wife.
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  Favorite TV Shows Growing Up

  by TOTH in

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  i used to love watching tv when i was a kid.

  for some reason not so much anymore.

  here are three of my favorites.

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  When I was very young, 5 or 6, I loved watching Emergency and Adam-12.

  Then there were the great shows of the '80s. Tales of the Gold Monkey and The A-Team.

  When I was in high school I followed The X-Files and Space: Above and Beyond.

  Any Robotech fans out there?
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  Carrying a gun out in service

  by Blind_Of_Lies in

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  truth_b_known

  There is no prohibition against owning or carrying firearms by Jehovah's Witnesses. However, if you do, you will not be given extra privileges in the congregation. You would probably be DFed for killing someone as the WTB&TS has no clue as to the difference between killing and murder.