It is funny and I believe that Rutherford never believed what he claimed. He just wanted to live in the lap of luxury. He wouldn't know Abraham if he bit him in the a$$.
thanks for the laugh
orangefatcat
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A claim to Beth Sarim
by Gary1914 inmy great grandmother, who has been in the truth forever, just told us a funny story and i thought i would share it with all of you.. we were discussing judge rutherford and she said that she was living in california at the same time as rutherford was living in beth sarim.
the papers at that time ran an article about rutherford and that beth sarim had been purchased especially for moses, abraham and other old faithful servants.. well, one day a hobo came to the door and claimed that he was abraham and that he came to take possession of his home.
i don't know what rutherford was expecting but instead of welcoming this "prince" to his new home he called the authorities to take him away.
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Letter of Disassociation
by freydi injune 16th, 1994 .
dear friends, .
this letter is the most difficult i have ever had to write.
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orangefatcat
It would be amazing to meet the individual who penned that. Thanks for providing us with an amazing reminder of why we all left the WTS. Actually it is a good reminder for newer ones to see for themselves these facts that you posted.
They are so well done, and very thought provoking. You'd hope that any witness who would take the time to read this then they'd know how wrong and decietful the WTBTS is and the corrupt presidents. I would love to get my hands on that 1934 Yearbook.. Sometime witnesses over look reading all the stories in the year books and miss out on this kind of info and so it is great when someone reminds and resurrects this information . I really appreciate it.
In fact I am going to print them off and keep it handy so if and when a witness calls I will discuss that with them. Nor wonder the Society is so paranoid. They should feel that way. What a bunch of liars. Imagine Rutherford and his little romp with Hilter one of this worlds most notrious murders and hate mongers of this last century. We have much to be grateful for when some one takes the time to show us information like this and as for myself I have never seen this before.
Anyway Freydi thanks for the time and effort you put forward for us. That was alot of typing.
love
Orangefatcat.
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Favorite Fast Food
by El Kabong ini am jonesing for some white castles!
but, sadly, they are not in this area.
those little burgers with the onions fresh off the grill, oh!!
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orangefatcat
Not too sure if in the US you have a resturant called "MOXIES", but they have this fantastic appeitizer ,. it appears on their menu,--- (skillet of louisiana garlic prawns succulent prawns lightly breaded and sautéed in our own blend of creole seasonings.) and served with garlic bread.
Wow it's yummy. It isn't expensive either, it is $5.99 and I love to wash it down with White Rickards Beer. This is a treat for me only occasionally. It is to die for.
and of course being an Orangefatcat, how could it not please me.
Terry
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Are You Ever Afraid To Post Your Views On This Board?
by minimus indo you ever get nervous making a post, knowing that perhaps you''re going to get "picked on" in one way or another??
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orangefatcat
Interesting point made by the poster who said they try and avoid certain individuals. That is best especially if you know the kind of person they and the kind of posts they create.
Orangefatcat
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What a Gem and they sure knew how to build cars and trucks in those years.
You'll have to post us a pix of it when you are able.
have fun, vroommmmmmmmmmm Oh yes baby what a muscle machine. Is it supped up with chrome everywhere?? Oh I am in love.
Orangefatcat is in CAR HEAVEN
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Hello
by letsgetout inhi everyone, i have been a longtime lurker to this website, but i have never posted.
so here is a little bit about myself:
i was raised a jw, got baptized at 13, became a regular pioneering right out of high school, i was used extensively at the hall and on assemblies, came from a nice jw background.
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Hello, and welcome to the board, know your no longer a lurker but a poster. Good show.
As I began reading your post, my heart was thumping so fast, as It sounded just like my sisters home and her sons. I was so hoping it was one of them, and then you said you were a girl. Then I laughed and thought thats okay maybe one day it will be one of my nephews. I am sure of it.
Isn't freedom wonderful. But now you have a big issue to settle with your parents. I don't envy your task. I had literally heart pain I thought I was going to have a coranary, but it was just nerves and panic. I settled down and after telling my sister what I was now doing with my life it was a massive blow to my mom, dad passed away in 95 and he was an elder. I am kind of glad he wasn't around I am sure he would have murdered me.. I was so glad I didn't have to face him. He was not a nice man. Oh he was peachy keen with all the witnesses but didn't like me much and home life was terrible We lived life as a facade of happiness but I knew the deep anguish in our family life.. So I only had to face my mom and sisters. I didn't give them much of a chance to speak with me either. I just said I amout of the organiztion and my marriage and don't come looking for me. As difficult as it was, they knew I had made up my mind I was never going to return. They have a hard time with that. That was in Dec of 1999. They expect you to stay a witness when your absolutley unhappy and miserable. It is kind of like a code.
Of course mentioning the thing I did well it seemed like okay she is going to be disfellowshipped. I was, but I will tell you this. I wasn't going to allow three men to sit in judgement of me because I had finally found love with a wonderful man and happiness for the first time in my life since I was 13 years old and forced to go to the KH and be a witness and a pioneer and serve where the need was greater. It wasn't any of their business it was between me and God. I chose God because he is merciful and forgives our mistakes a thousand times over no matter how crimson. I wasn't going to give a JC the right to tell me that I was a sinner and in need of disfellowshipping because I wasn't sorry for what I did. I know God knew what I had to do to survive or go mad, literally, I recall that very day after having discussed in my prayers for years what did you God want me to do. Please show me what to do . I pleaded and cried my heart out to God for the answer and then for some unknown reason I all of a sudden felt a calmness overtake my very body, I stopped crying and thanked God for now I knew what was to be my future. I have never ever looked back or regretted any of the choices I made. I knew too that God had forgiven me my error and then I felt so peace ful and joyful. I went to an emergency shelter and hid there for several days until I was ready to face my ex husband and family. I took a letter over to the PO when I knew he wasn't home and placed it in his mailbox and then the begging began you must come to the JC. No I didn't have to do anything I didn't want to .
And if you aren't sorry for your choices then don't be afraid. Just tell the family and yes they will be upset and angry and throw a temper tandrum or two. but you know in your heart of hearts what will bring you happiness even if you have had to keep it a secret for some time. Don't let it worry you truly because we are already our own worst judges.
We don't need family and congregation to rub salt in a wound. You have found someone who will fill your life with love and happiness and God would rather have you that way instead of hiding from your parents the things you have done or not done. They won't break, Parents will get over it.
However that price tag is heavy unless your folks aren't stuck to the rules to the letter in the organization, If they have to no longer speak with you, you will have no choice but to except it. But you know what it is you want and go for it and explain it to God just between you two and you will calm down in you spirit. You will find a peace that is amazing. I am not leading you on I am telling you this truth. It is the family who will find it difficult, but your an adult and you have the right as Gods free moral agent to do as you want. He didn't make us to be robots and yesbots to a manmade organization, that has a bloodguilty background and is still continuing to this day.
I know it will bring you peace to know that you didn't attend your JC meeting. Where they will tear you apart. That anguish will not exist they will disfellowship you in absentia though. You have no regrets right ? So go out there and get that happiness you want in your life. Good luck and much happiness to you and your future husband.
best wishes to you
Love Orangefatcat.
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My very First Ex-JW Meet-UP.............
by nomoreguilt intell me what i should or shouldn't expect.
there is a meet-up planned for this saturday at a local restaraunt.
i see where they are expecting 13 plus to show up, from the rsvp.
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When I went to my first gathering, I felt like I knew everyone in some small way, we all came out of that nasty devilish organizaiton and that was a common ground, Then you start eating and drinking and laughing and having the time of your life. I would go to all of them if it were possible.
You will go away feeling great and a little tipsy but that is okay at least no one is watching you underneath a mircroscope..
Have a grand time. You won't regret it..
love Orangefatcat.
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Are You Ever Afraid To Post Your Views On This Board?
by minimus indo you ever get nervous making a post, knowing that perhaps you''re going to get "picked on" in one way or another??
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I personally am not afraid to post my views, and I like to hear other persons point of views. I think it makes it easier to understand personalities. Knowing of course how many have been hurt in the organization and even in chat rooms I can understand their reluctance at posting views. One great human rights law is that we have the freedom of speech and that doesn't give a person a license to hurt others. Be peacable with all persons. You'll see productivity then.
Speaking for myself I guess I have a gregarious personality and I really love people a lot, and I value what opinons others share. I sure as heck don't know everything in life and so when others share their feelings and thoughts about issues on the board, I appreciate it. We all need to be more sensitive to persons who express that they are this way. It is my sincerest hope that I have never intented to hurt another person in this board. If I have I am very sorry. Hurting others is so counter productive and damn right cruel. So if I need a spanking go ahead and give it to me. I will not break..
I have seen many an exjw come here afraid and after a while they seem to blossom and express their opinions. It's like watching the metamorphis' of the caterpiller turning into a beautiful butterfly. It is heart warming that they can find true friendship on this board. Yes even love. Is anyone available.???? Orangefatcat shut your yap.. !!
Don't get me wrong I have seen people come and go over the years because some people lack sensitivities of others feelings. It is sad that some have left after being hurt , like my best friend. She is a shy person and highly self conscienous and it didn't take long for someone to offend her and then she left. Which is sad because she is truly a remarkable person. But really she hurts and then she feels like she offended. Apoligies can work wonders...
Some have had to be removed from the board permanently on account of thier big mouths. Simon is good at sensing peoples needs and watches for persons who are combative disorderly and cruel. Some people just like being this way. It is sad. Goodness haven't we all been hurt deeply by the WTS and the elders and haven't we all got out seeking a better life for ourselves. I would think that after having been so badly hurt we would be more aware to the kindnesses on this board. Becuase there are some fabulous person in here. I know I could trust them with my life.
We don't live in a perfect world and we need a tougher exterior from time to time and I think it should be corrected immediately so that we don't lose good individuals here. Lets not be like the greater part of mankind who have no values of life and think nothing of killing or hacking you to death. Sometimes we even verbally kill someone inside their heart. That shouldn't happen in here or among us. We need each other and the support we offer to others when ever they are in need, be it in a way of positive thoughts or prayers. and vibes. Let us not be critical or mean spirited. Strive at doing good unto others .
This of course my own HO.
But hey I love all of you and those who know me know this is really so.
So a great big group hug from that
Orangefatcat,
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International Bible Student's 1910 Convention Report on Ebay
by Invetigator74 ini noticed on ebay a 1910 assembly report is on auction.
why is there a great demand on auctions for these old wt.publication?
the pictures are quite interesting in that listing, but wouldn't they contain old light information?
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In my humble opinion I believe more and more people leaving the organization and the newer ones and apostates are always interested in older literature and memorbilla, I for one am a big fan of finding older literature. It wakens up in the minds of the new ones and those who have left and have no access to this literature are eager to find out the old ways of thinking in the WTS and then their continual flip flopping.
For example with respects to blood issues, and intellectual thinking persons verses the stupidity of Russell saying that, the Black race are not a smart as white people. Their brains insisted were of completely different shapes I do believe he infered primative man or primates. But see how stupid it was thinking like that and then printing it. Wow talk about prejudice and racial motivated. He foot the bill. Then his stupid rules on medications. Do you know it was fround upon to seek help from professional doctors and psychiatrists. Talk about being a moron. Or the Miracle Wheat, that always makes me laugh.
People are interested in know ing this and when they find an older piece of literature it is like finding a gold mind.
I have many older publications from Russell and Rutherford.
I just love the excuse the Society used in making a special home for the socalled "ancient worthies", like give me a break the guy just wanted to live in the lap of luxur y. This is the norm when ever you visit Bethels and Missionary homes all over the world and see what luxuries these brothers have.
I recollect on CO saying people in the truth have no time for hot spas, or swimming pools and sauna's the best cars so late into the end of this system of things. But hey visit the Canadian Branch let me tell you they have every luxury for them in Bethel. Pools hotspas, tennis courts, and volley balll and hops for basket ball and they tell us no we can't afford to own these items we are suppose to be busy in the work of preaching and teaching. While they bask in glory.
That is why new persons and exjw are interested in getting the drivel on the Society so they can enlighten the rest of the world.
Orangefatcat.
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1975 Letdown increasingly becoming topic of conversations among witnesses
by Meeting Junkie No More ini have noticed that more and more, witnesses seem to be discussing the 1975 debacle amongst themselves, and agreeing that it is amazing that witnesses as a whole are all still here and the world is still here, and their kids are now in high school, or married, or whatever.
they also seem to be discussing the importance of retirement plans, in direct contradiction to what cos and dos are spouting at the annual conventions.... the last time this happened was at a recent funeral, where another long-time witness had passed on.
the interesting thing was that a younger group were discussing this, and some of them weren't even around in '75!.
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Well I am 56 and was baptized in 67 and yes 1975 was all we ever heard from that year onward until 75 came and went just like all the predictions of these prophets of God.
it was a major let down. Like when the GB said it was going to happen and they lied and said they never said that . Well we know they did and have had the documentation of it and even a talk heard in the Gilead Glass by FF.
I don't know what my thoughts were back then as I was a busy in Montreal, and to me it was as if that date flew by and they made so little fuss about it that newer ones and older ones just kept being faithful because that is what the GB said. I recollect a visit my Nathan Knorr in 1972 I think he was a bit wacky then he died shortly afterward of a brain tumor. Hey maybe the other members of bethel were so old it didn't make any difference to them . They lived in their Glass Tower and nothing could touch them. But the one thing that really freaked the society was 911, they were scared to death or hell or what ever.. I think at one breif moment I felt bad for them and their calculations. but only momentarily.
It has been the recent years, their lies, coverups, the blood issue, the UN thing, sexual coverups and homosexuality allowing members to stay with in the organization and they weren't disfellowshipped. This is what has made me despise and hate the things they are doing in the name of God. That is what is unforgiviable.
I think more than 99 percent thought that was the commencement of the Big A or the Big T.. how foolish they made themselves looked again.
Just putting in my two cents worth.
love Orangefatcat