Posts by IamPresence2012

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Question... Does an elder lose his privileges if his 18 year old son stops attending the KH?

by Alfred in

i'm starting to get a clearer picture of what's been happening with my nephew who has recently decided that he no longer wishes to be a part of "the lie"... it appears that my nephew may have been forced to move out by his elder father who was afraid of possibly losing his privileges by having a non-believing son under his roof.

that is the impression i'm getting by talking to my sister (his aunt who is not a jw).. while i try to figure this out... does anyone know if that is a valid possibility in general?

i'm referring to the possibility of an elder losing his privileges because his son no longer wishes to be a jw but still lives under the same roof... any insight by recently faded elders would be much appreciated.... thanks.

IamPresence2012

Interesting that he would rather side with the WT than his own flesh n blood. His son is still a part of him regardless. But then again the WT has such a strong hold in mind control that his father will shy away from his son to keep the elites happy. Ofcourse you do not want to anger YWH, he may need a sacrifice,, which he will happily do. Who else rules in fear? People will fear WT than they fear God or Satan,,,

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Does anyone here believe in ET's? That we are not alone on this vast Universe?

by IamPresence2012 in

being brought up a jw until age 25. i never made an attempte to search anywhere else for information until i moved out (thank god).

thanks to the internet,, my curiosity led me to different websites, books, documentaries and video presentations.

one of the topic at large was ufo's i remember there was an awake (inthe 80 or 90's) but was too young to comprehend or figure out what it was.

IamPresence2012

Someone once said that the greatest evidence for INTELLIGENT life out there is the fact they have never contacted us.

George

I can't blame them,, we eat and kill everything in sight,,,, LOL Talk about hell on earth where it's a survival for the fitest mentality. I am hoping we will soon get disclosure and graduate out of this school of experiences, we are technically in Baby Class inthe levels of dimensions.

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Jesus or Yeshua married to Mary Magdalene? And had kids?

by IamPresence2012 in

i listened to this reading and was amazed about how so little we know about the most famous person who ever lived at this time.

the link is below, but here are some pointers,,, listen and read with an open mind,,, i know most members are after being duped by organized religion.

it this gets some interest i will post a new one as it comes out next week.. tonight on an hour with an angel, jesus made some startling revelations, perhaps the most interesting of which was the acknowledgement that he did marry mary magdalene, had a daughter sarah who journeyed to the south of france after his departure from this plane, and that sarah was indeed what is known as the holy grail.

IamPresence2012

I listened to this reading and was amazed about how so little we know about the most famous person who ever lived at this time. The link is below, but here are some pointers,,, Listen and Read with an Open mind,,, I know most members are after being duped by organized religion. It this gets some interest I will post a new one as it comes out next week.

Tonight on An Hour with an Angel, Jesus made some startling revelations, perhaps the most interesting of which was the acknowledgement that he did marry Mary Magdalene, had a daughter Sarah who journeyed to the South of France after his departure from this plane, and that Sarah was indeed what is known as the “Holy Grail.” He mentioned as well why this info was aleft out of the Gospel.

To listen to this show and past shows, click on the link below:http://www.blogtalkradio.com/an-hour-with-an-angel

He said that his family of origin was well-placed and that times varied from peaceful to less orderly because of mass migrations. But his family was not poor as has been often represented in the Bible.Other revelations: he described the journeying he made to other lands to study under teachers of many religions. In olden times this round was called the philosopher’s circuit. He described his studies in India.

He acknowledged that we are all already immortal and, when he speaks of immortality, he means the end of the need to be reborn into matter rather than becoming immortal.

He talked about his birth, childhood, and education, and that he travels among star brothers and sisters today.

He spoke to those who are feeling a lack of hope, and the importance for Lightworkers to reach out to others to send healing, love and light to let them know you are holding the hope for them until they are ready to resume their place in the unfoldment/2012. He said it is time for standing up for what you know to be true.

Jesus said he would return next week to continue the discussion of his life and teachings, including karma and reincarnation.

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What was the first thing you did...

by OneDayillBeFree in

jw
friends

when you left the man-made organization currently known as the wtbts??.

and for those still "in" but mentally "out" what have you started doing thats against the silly, stupid and non-scriptural watchtower policy/law/rule??.

i know the question has been made before on another thread but i couldn't find it and also there's been quite some growth in new ones here to jwn, so just wanted to see if we could all share some lovely/funny/random experiences.

IamPresence2012

I faded off as well. but I remember we bought a house , close to our neighborhood was a KH and since no one knew me I decided to pay a visit to see what's new,,, Can't recall what the topic of the main talk was but the elder mentioned deadening our body members even if we are married. put Jehova first,,,, and I was thinking wow,,, don't get some when you are single and even if you are married you have to limit the number of times to get it,,,, I drove home, found my hubby(who was not a Witness) in bed, we had sex all afternoon,, he kept asking what did I hear at the KH that was so hot,, for me to come home and just do him,,, I realized how freeing it was,, and how some sis n bro will not be getting some for a long time as they keep Jehovah first. personally I think when it comes to the bedroom matters JW's are as depressed and mind controlled as lab rat.. he need a topic on this, unless they members are dead or cut off.

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Does anyone here believe in ET's? That we are not alone on this vast Universe?

by IamPresence2012 in

being brought up a jw until age 25. i never made an attempte to search anywhere else for information until i moved out (thank god).

thanks to the internet,, my curiosity led me to different websites, books, documentaries and video presentations.

one of the topic at large was ufo's i remember there was an awake (inthe 80 or 90's) but was too young to comprehend or figure out what it was.

IamPresence2012

I think there are some verswes inthe bible that could have implied ET presence or other dimensions. When Jesus when to pray/meditate with his two disiples and fell asleep, they awoke to seeing this light and jesus was standing with moses and who else,,I can't even remember,,,, Mt sinai was a star gate where you could travel from earth to other dimenions. Some verses of angels ascending from heaven, could have been travellers from other star systems.

Only time will tell, if they exist and I believe it would not be long before first contact though am hoping for disclosure as well.

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The LEGAL mindset of Jehovah's Governing authority (Plenary Power)

by Terry in

a lot of the glaring distortions of common sense inherent in jehovah's witness mainstream thought flowed from the erratic legalist mindset of.

judge joe rutherford.. rutherford served for awhile as a prosecutor in a district attorney's office.. his view of "getting the job done" consisted of hammering away at an "enemy" with a litany of bullet points.. his theological mindset was hardly any different!.

look at the legal terms that seeped in to jw everyday parlance.. .

IamPresence2012

Russell was from the 13 bloodlines that rule the earth. Do some reaserch of 13 bloodlines. Of course they will consider themselves as Elites or governing body,,,, just like the other factions from the bloodlines mentione afew,,Rockafellers, Rothschilds,Dupont. A very interconnected group of elites that are very powerful at mind control,,, and ofcourse the JW's wins the prize.

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"Be Successful in Coping with Change" - Notes from a special talk given after Watchtower Study at Brooklyn Bethel December 5, 2011

by wannabefree in

jw
friends

these are notes passed on to me, i thought i would share.. .

be successful in coping with change.

special talk given after watchtower study at brooklyn bethel december 5, 2011. monday night - monday night we had a special lecture to attend after study of the watchtower entitled "be successful in coping with change".

IamPresence2012

Ohh their worker bees are getting kicked out? How polite with the scriptures and examples. Without a means to support themselves, I wonder if most will choose to go on to be travelling overseers? Is that Jehovah's will? Maybe,,, I liked the comments of Jehovah of the old testament from Steve2. He did give orders, loved to alienate poeple as the chosen ones, asking humans to kill each other in his name,,, Old testament is like a horror movie on print,,, ok going off topic here.

It is WT's will. Anyone can pick a verse and twist it to apply to their situation. With all the new additions why are they downsizing I wonder. To me statics they put up don't mean anything but a number,, they use this as a mind control, they know what we like to see,,,, Another religion would pull out the same numbers as well. At the end of the day you are a sheeple. so whichever directions the GB will go, the worker bees have no say, they will follow as they always do. Except afew that have woken up,,, They should print those numbers as well, how many sheep were brought to the herd and how many got out?

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Does anyone here believe in ET's? That we are not alone on this vast Universe?

by IamPresence2012 in

being brought up a jw until age 25. i never made an attempte to search anywhere else for information until i moved out (thank god).

thanks to the internet,, my curiosity led me to different websites, books, documentaries and video presentations.

one of the topic at large was ufo's i remember there was an awake (inthe 80 or 90's) but was too young to comprehend or figure out what it was.

IamPresence2012

When I see the UFO sightings, I wonder who are this intergalactic travellers and why can't we travel like them around our planet. At this day and age we are still huddled in airports and airplanes. While ET's use the most advanced technologies out there,, They are definatley advanced than we are. From my research they come from other dimensions and other parts of the universe that are highly evolved than we are. As I mentioned we are on a 3D earth and and the dimensions go upto 11th or 12th. So we are way at the bottom and should be moving up to higher dimensions and will be able to have better technology and other information that has been supressed over the years.

It's an interesting discussion to have with open minded people.

I will mention that I made a comment to my mum (about us being not alone) who is still active and she did not want to even hear or imagine this can be a possibility. The fact that it's not inthe bible or WT does not comment or teach about it ,its not true according to her.

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Have your faith been made stronger or made weaker since coming here?

by jam in

me personally, considerably weaker.

in fact i have.

become an agnostic.. since i discovered this site over 6-7 yrs, we have.

IamPresence2012

Although I was and ex when I discovered this site,,, It makes me realize I made the right decision to leave, Once you learn the truth,, you cannot unlearn it, I saw the light and am glad to be free from the organized religions.

As far as having faith inthe bible,,, After alot of research I've learned being a history book it has lots of myths put there by men, It was not inspired as we are led to believe. Some items have been ommited and some added to serve an agenda so I cannot trust it entirely. But it has some truths about some events that happened many moons ago. The wicked one has infiltrated the bible and religions,, Go within yourself to find the truth, as Jesus said, once you find the truth, it will make you free. I am Free from the illusions on this world.

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Does anyone here believe in ET's? That we are not alone on this vast Universe?

by IamPresence2012 in

being brought up a jw until age 25. i never made an attempte to search anywhere else for information until i moved out (thank god).

thanks to the internet,, my curiosity led me to different websites, books, documentaries and video presentations.

one of the topic at large was ufo's i remember there was an awake (inthe 80 or 90's) but was too young to comprehend or figure out what it was.

IamPresence2012

Being brought up a JW until age 25. I never made an attempte to search anywhere else for information until I moved out (Thank God). Thanks to the internet,, my curiosity led me to different websites, books, documentaries and video presentations. One of the topic at large was UFO's I remember there was an Awake (inthe 80 or 90's) but was too young to comprehend or figure out what it was. Now that I am older and getting wiser, I have done some research to conclude yes we are not alone,, there are billion of stars with life forms,, we are in a 3D universe that will be going into 4th and 5th. This being one of the toughest schools to learn experiences of duality.

I wonder whats the take on JW's or X-JW's on ET's and other life outside our earth.