YES!!!!!! Out of the mouths of babes!
You must be so proud.
I was cheering when I read what he said.
I am so happy for you.
I hope your wife follows suit soon.
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Victory...the reward for patience!
by dmouse inmany years ago when i first came upon boards like this i wanted to know how to cope with my new status as an exjw.. in particular i was concerned with how to handle my still devout jw wife and three children.. i was given a lot of advice some potentially harmful, like leave your wife but many recommended patience.. that was ten years ago.
over the next decade i allowed my wife to take our children to all the meetings and inculcate them however she wished.
i knew it was a risk but i did not want to appear to be the stereotypical opposing mate and reinforce jw propaganda.. my plan was this:.
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An Open Letter to Ray Franz
by mikepence in(please reply to this message with your own signature and added thoughts.
then, we will make sure that this reaches ray.).
dear ray,.
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Dear Mr. Franz,
Thank you soooo much. I was out of the Org for 13 years before the mind control allowed me to entertain idea's that were different from my upbringing. I didn't even know about your book at that time. But once the online community told me about it, there was nothing that could stop me from reading it.
I thank you for the courage it took you to tell the truth. The fact that you tell it with no hard feelings is amazing, but appreciated. It certainly lends credit to your name and works.
Yes, you are an icon. Something you don't even want to be. But you gave us all something to live for. Life. Something THEY told us we couldn't have.
After 13 years of living like there was no tomorrow and life didn't matter because there was no way I would live long anyway. After 13 years of being told (and believing) that I had condemned my daughter to death. Well, I must say I feel stupid for some of the decisions I made. But, at least, I have seen worse mistakes made. And now I have a future to live for because of you.
There are just no words that can describe the Thankfulness in my heart to you.
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Having intense nostalgia-is that bad?
by ashitaka ini'm having a wee bout of memory.
i've been hearing a lot of the old crew i used to hang out with when i was a jw.
my old best friend, he's getting married soon.
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I apologize Ashi -
I didn't realize there was a tone to his call. You know these people better than anyone. If you feel that no good can come of the meeting, then there is no reason to meet with them at all.
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Having intense nostalgia-is that bad?
by ashitaka ini'm having a wee bout of memory.
i've been hearing a lot of the old crew i used to hang out with when i was a jw.
my old best friend, he's getting married soon.
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I'd call the one that told you not to ignore his message.
But I am an eternal optimist.
What if he had doubts and knew I was the only one he could safely talk to about it? I couldn't NOT call him.
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My wife's anxiety, guilt
by ashitaka inmy wife has been depressed each time we see our jw friends.
she doesn't want to see them anymore, because it reminds her of what she left behind, and it makes her feel bad.. i've offered to go back to meetings for a while to help her break away.
she never wants to go back, but her guilt and anger make her so uncomfortable around active jw's.....it's really bothering her.. any good books out there on breaking away from controlling organizations, especially concentrating on keeping the friendships but not the allegiance to the organization in question?
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I would also recommend Leaving the Fold - by Marlene Winell, Ph.D.
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Please form a judicial committee...
by SexyTeen inseeing that most of those on this forum love to judge others (although the complaint is that jws do the same thing), i am willing to go through a judicial committee.. if you see fit not to forgive, please disfellowship me and shun me.
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I think I know why daddy slapped her.
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My Daughter and Jehovah
by obiefernandez ini have a five-year old daughter and i've been fully inactive for about 3 years.
so she got a limited degree of jw exposure as an infant.
most of my immediate family are still witnesses, but we don't have dealings with them on any regular basis.
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My daughter is 10. I have not been associated with a church of any kind in her lifetime. But she has had dealings with my JW relatives. Last summer she wanted to go to church with a neighbor. This began a nice long conversation. Ultimately I told her that I had been doing a lot of research on the subject of religion and was not convinced that any of it was true. I told her that since she was still impressionable, I didn't want her to be exposed to any doctrine that would be drilled into her head as the "absolute" truth. I told her that she needed to be old enough to do the research and see both sides of the argument before deciding on anything. She understood this. We also discussed my being raised as a Witness and she felt that it must have been awful. Since she doesn't have anything to do with My mother (who is still in the Borg) she realizes that it must not be that good. She says she NEVER wants to stop talking to me, because of some religion. I love that child of mine.
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Are you really ready for big moral issues?
by Mindchild inwhile reading the abortion thread on this site today, i was reminded of a college class i took on dealing with ethical and moral issues.
i learned something interesting in this class and it was that just because we have strong beliefs about something, it doesn't give us any rights to impose our beliefs on others.. this is of course the "christian" way...to demand that their beliefs should be the standard by which we all live our lives.
this intolerance, or in milder cases disgust for nonconformers, is in itself one of the huge moral issues we face.. essentially, regardless of things being right or wrong, our world defines societal norms by community standards.
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Leave no man stranded.
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My Response To J R Brown
by silentlambs inmy response to j. r. brown.
i am writing to follow up with information concerning j. r. browns response to comments i made to the media regarding watchtowers policy hurting children and protecting pedophiles.
in the course of the last year the jehovahs witness public information department headed by j. r. brown and local elders have repeatedly offered misinformation to the public.
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Perry mentioned the scripture that says not to take you brother to court. Personally, I think that scripture was talking more about civil issues. If your brother's tree fell into your yard and he won't clean it up. Yeah it sucks, but turn the other cheek and let it go. But if your "brother" violates the "brotherhood" and does some horendous crime against your child or yourself?. Well, HE VIOLATED the BROTHERHOOD! He is no longer considered "brother" in MY eyes. I don't know how anyone COULD consider him "brother" after such a thing. Therefore the scripture becomes null and void. No brother of mine would do such a thing. No "Brother" would do that. He's not MY brother anymore. Take him to court!
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no blood cards this year!
by DIM inlast night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.
in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?
absolutely nuts!.
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