i wanted to start with a bang, so i have a question.. my girlfriend told me today that she doesn't mind me having sex with other women.
i said,"i don't want an 'open relationship'" and she replied, "i know, i can't sleep with other men, but if you do that's ok".
is this girl a lettuce leaf short of a picnic.
She probably had a one night stand with some guy and now feels bad and in order to rectify what she did, she wants you to go ahead and at least do it once with some other girl. She knows that you're not the type to sleep around so she knows that if you do it once it won't be so bad for her to deal with.
Maverick
An eye for an eye.......make 'em die
jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.
these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.
so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.
You Know (nothing),
Getting back to your anylisis of the Iraqi forces and how they built them up thru the last decade, they indeed have built up their army but not their "forces". Let me explain it to You like I did my daughter:
The U.S. Army spend millions on specialized training-Iraq does not. An american Ranger or Special forces soldier is exactly that ;like their motto goes " You mess with the best..You die like the rest".
Iraqi "elite" guard is nothing more than a few men who were given a crash course in repelling and weapons handling. I can give my daughter's 3rd grade class ak47's and they would be considered a "force" who can do damage. That is exactly what
Iraq is dealing with. Their soldiers throw their weapons down with the slightest glimpse at us. Believe me they are not a force. Again only the lunacy of their leader must be watched.
You can believe and predict anything you want but You know nothing. My last tour their was May -Sept. 2000 and I don't recall seeing you there. So try and stick to things that you actually know about.
As for Godrules,
JW's don't go out endless hours trying to save people, they go out because you need to get the $$ for the literature.
Let me show you how I can prove it: Go to your meeting and tell your P.O. that from now on you just want to preach using your Bible and that you no longer want to "place" magazines, that if the people have any quetions you will gladly call on them. See what he tells you. When he convinces you that thats not wise ask him that if the early Christians understood the Bible truths without magazines and books and went preaching without them and it WORKED!, Why do we need them today?
I bet you will be interrogated within a few days and "relieved" of any position of which you treasue. And if you get upset and don't show humility, you'll be all up in a judicial comm.
Good 'ol JW's always predictable.
Mav-
it was recently pointed out in another thread, the business mode of certain organizations to persuade people who have accrued a substantial estate to turn their holdings over to the organization in return for which the organization agrees to support them with a certain agreed income for the remainder of their life.
the advantage for the organization comes with investing the money in stock or bond funds for an anticipated higher return than they expect to pay to the invester/doner, as well as getting the whole thing after the investor dies without any inheritance penalty.
(is this a fair statement of the issue?).
Ros,
"Exodus" just left on vacation for 2 weeks but he has a site on homestead somthing in which he scanned the very hard to come by Watchower investment guide. He put it up on an old post on H20 I booked marked it but I changed browsers and am trying to find the address.
But you have to read this info. Its a book thats only given to certain P.O.'s of Congo. that have bro's and sis's that express interest in making some type of donation. It also shows how they will invest your money and actually cut you a check for the profits monthly if you want. It even says you can use it for your childs schooling!! (the returns)
Again Exodus has the book in his possesion (he is still a P.O. although they're on to him) and has scanned it. If I find the site I'll post it.
Maverick
Don't go where the path leads.....go where there is no path and leave a trail.
there is no question about it, the world is rapidly heading toward its terminal tumult.
with the foretold apostasy now fully underway, the stage is set for jehovahs ongoing controversy to be pressed to its ultimate conclusion.
piece by piece, chunks of the underlying economy, the life blood of the present system of things, are falling away.
You Know nothing about military affairs abroad.
You know nothing of whats happening in Israel or Iraq.
You know nothing of type of military threat that would start a "world war".
I do retard. In case You have not figured it out yet.
You only know what you are fed by the media and what the Gov. allows to be printed and photographed.
To say that Iraq has "Commandos" is completely rediculous. We took all those bastards out in Desert Storm. They have nothing left. They Know (not You) that when they step to the plate again, We will take them out even quicker.
They present little threat to our forces and only the lunacy of their leader is what is to be watched.
You can stop worrying about a world war and get back to your Bible and economy classes and leave Military affairs for those of use who actually Know something.
Maverick-SFC U.S.Army Persian Gulf, Bosnia, Africa, Columbia and still going
Airborne Rangers lead the way!!!!!!!!
would anyone be up for some sort of cookout / barbeque sort of thing somewhere in the northeast in the next few weeks, perhaps around labor day?
being in providence, just about anywhere from ncy to boston would work for me.
we could drink beer, make smores, and tell stories.
Im in NYC, just say the word.
Maverick
i have to post tonight.
i'm feeling so alone.
stopped here at the library to post this, on my way to the book study.
Im sorry ti hear that you and you husband both have depression spells.
But I will tell you that you are not alone, by any means.
I was so depressed by all the nonsense that happened to me of not "feeling at home" anymore and of not having anyone to talk to who can understand the thing that I was discovering that I wound up enlisting in the Army (enlisting in your 30's is not easy).
I thought that I could find a "home" a group of people that I can again learn to depend on. Although I did, and had many experiences that I shared with my platoon and primarily my squad, It took me all this time to figue out that that these feelings happen to all of us that wind up discovering the lies and deceit of the WTS.
I was depressed for along time and like you position my wife origanally did not want to know about any "apostate" info.
But time passed and she started realizing what has been said all along by our friends on this board and previously H20.
Try to keep your head up knowing that soon you will be free of the yoke that is weighing you down now. You will soon be free to follow Jesus's words without any men to tell you how and when and what it means. That is the greatest freedom of all.
When I would go to sleep under the constant gunfire and bombing in the windy deserts of Iraq I would get so depressed thinking about what this Borg org. drove me to do. But now I don't have enough words to express my joy and satisfaction in life.
You soon will feel better.
Maverick
my sister sent me this article which talks about all the recurring troubles in isreal.
but if you read the article you can see how the new york times article author's research also lead him to 586 b.c.
as the destruction of jerusalem vs. that of the wtbts's 607.. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/30/international/30mide.html?ex=997502925&ei=1&en=04ea96838fe6bf9d.
My sister sent me this article which talks about all the recurring troubles in Isreal. But if you read the article you can see how the New York Times article author's research also lead him to 586 B.C. as the destruction of Jerusalem vs. that of the WTBTS's 607.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/30/international/30MIDE.html?ex=997502925&ei=1&en=04ea96838fe6bf9d
JW's need to read somthing more the WT and Awakes!
Maverick
i was just wondering what everyone's username meant.
i have my own guesses (sixofnine, silentlambs, slayerlayer-i'm almost afraid :o), amazing-enough said!,mommy, fredhall-is that your name?, ozziepost-from downunder, and the list goes on!
please share!!
PATRIOT---as in the Missle
Maverick--also as the long range missle.
My father who was an ex Airborne Ranger who fought in Vietnam and watched the "wall" in Berlin for another 8 years always called me Maverick. I am his only boy.
He passed on Jan. 27, 2001.
I use patriot because someone already took the maverick name but doesnt post with it.
Maverick
regarding dfing policy:.
is it true that those wishing reinstatement sit up the back?.
in an average congregation, how many dfed would be sitting up the back?.
In my hall from time to time we would have 1 D'fd person sitting in the back.
Usually sitting in the back gives the "idea" that they are sorry for what they did. If they were to sit all the way in the front it could be taken as a defiant and "I don't care" attitude.
Besides that, most people that sit in the back is either because they're late or they have big families or have babies that tend to make alot of niose. So instead of having the attendants(ushers) telling them to remove their kids from the main room, they sit back there to do it themselves.
As far as you talking with a D'fd person (if you can find one) they won't talk to you. Usually that'll give you the clue to keep walking because he/she is d'fd. If you insist, then they will tell straight out they are. If you still insist they'll most probably ignore you because if an elder catches them talking to you, you won't get told anything but they will get told that doing that will hurt their chances of a "speedy" recovery. And if thats their goal, trust me you won't change it.
Maverick
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
That experience is completly sad in itself. It still boggles me the lengths that this Org. would go to cover all this up just to keep claiming that they are the "true" religion. How truely sad.
Brother Bowen I really wish that I can meet with you. I have been keeping in close contact with Exodus(Truthexodus) which is the P.O. that you have helping with his merky situation here in NYC. I must say to you here so that all that does'nt know may know, that you are indeed an incredible man. You have done so much and are so busy but yet you have time to keep helping others who need that extra help just when it really counts.
I told exodus that I wish I had any documentation that could be used in helping you but unfortunately I don't.
All I have are the bitter memories of how I was ousted from the borg after 5 interrogation sessions by the C.O.and P.O. then the mock judicial commitee with about 13 witnesses that came to "testify" against me.
It was all for the better anyway. No more doing their "dirty" work for them.
Now my wife and I can concentrate on raising our daughter without putting ideas of eternal destruction in her head.
Again, thanks to you for all your hard work, to you I take my hat off.
Take care and maybe one day we'll meet.
Maverick-
All men must die.......but few,ever really live..
