i have been thinking about the legal departments that look after the wts interests around the world.i can`t believe these legal eagles offer their services on a voluntary basis like the r&f do.and i don`t believe their services would come cheap.. as an organization the size of jw.org and its offshoots of companys and interests around the world ,the cost of keeping them gainfully employed must amount to a considerable sum of money.. especially the law suits against them with child abuse court cases that arise on a regular basis ,and the government inquiry`s into the jw religion that is happening in different countries now.. all paid for by the voluntary contributions that come from the r&f for the worldwide preaching work .. contributions to pay for the wt organization`s legal department to defend themselves in court ?.
did jesus and the apostles pay lawyers to defend them in a court of law with funds donated by their supporters ?.
They have just lost a case they fought all the way to the Supreme Court in Sweden. They were charged under a Swedish Law for showing Videos that were harmful to children. They Lost ! Ha Ha, those videos are as harmful as the old pictures in the Books showing people dying at Armageddon were to us.
More donation $$$ and Kroner down the drain.
Should they show those Videos anywhere now that children are in attendance ? NO !
i was 20 years old and at bethel for just a couple of months.
i was really depressed, as i was finding out what bethel was really all about.
i drank a whole bottle of cold duck, after a long hot subway ride back to brooklyn.
Yea, good advice, but as my Bro. in Law says, about my drinking and smoking , " Well,.... at least he will die happy". !!!
my great granddad met abraham lincoln when he was a boy.
when i was a kid i met him, he was 100+.
so according to the generation teaching i knew lincoln.
J.W Doctrine was pretty wacky when I was a kid, in the 50's and 60's, but now it is beyond laughable.
The J.W willy org as I call it, has painted itself in to a corner with their slavish hanging on to the thoroughly discredited 1914 nonsense.
Of course, if they abandon, or even modify slightly the 1914 garbage, they have no mandate, they were not chosen in 1919 by Jesus, and that makes them Self Appointed Charlatans.
Perhaps I could suggest a way, that I have thought of, that they could extend the claim that we are living in " The Last Days", but I will not do so, they may take up my idea !
just saw this on the news tonight.
england has come up with a covid vaccine at the oxford university.
india wants to start using it in a couple of months.
The other hopeful new treatment may well come from the Llama/ Alpaca group of animals. They have been proven to develop Nano antibodies, tiny ones, that act against the Virus, and earlier iterations of it. This will probably have to be administered as a method of fighting against the disease, not a prophylactic, and I guess will involve the transfusion of Blood, so J.W's will die through lack of it.
i was 20 years old and at bethel for just a couple of months.
i was really depressed, as i was finding out what bethel was really all about.
i drank a whole bottle of cold duck, after a long hot subway ride back to brooklyn.
I really cannot remember the first time, but it was without doubt in my early Teens,and an embarrassing number of times subsequently. The funny one I remember was when we were staying at a friends Apartment, just the wife and I , we had no kids then, and the guy whose Flat it was ended the evening of long drinking by us sharing a bottle of fine Whisky.
In the morning, I visited the Bathroom/Toilet, as you do, still thoroughly pissed, and forgot the door SLID, I tried to pull it open, in the process managed to pull the handle off, and fell back in to the Bath, laughing like an idiot !
does there seem to be a higher incidence of infidelity amongst the jws?.
my brother, who is an active jw and ministerial servant, has an elder friend who was recently disfellowshipped for having an affair with another sister in the hall.
it turns out this sister was divorced a few years earlier from a "worldly" man who had an affair on her.
From my personal experience, I have a feeling Infidelity may be a bit higher than other religions among JW's, and possibly a bit higher than among the general public ??
I knew of many cases in our own Congo. and surrounding ones. One big case happened in a close by Congo, actual wife swapping involving M.S's as well as ordinary JW's.
I was "offered it on a plate" at least three or four times, two were just horny sisters wanting me to shag them, maybe nothing more, one I got dangerously close to actually going ahead, it was flirting that led eventually to me being infatuated, but never did I weaken, I am so glad, to have sacrificed my marriage would have been the worst decision of my life. And I learned in the end that the girl I was infatuated with was an utter witch, and simply wanted out from her marriage. She engineered a Divorce, quite how I am not sure, her husband was a nice guy, before that had gone through she latched on to a JW guy about 10 years younger than her, and eventually married him.
One Elder said to me that " we have had every sin in our Congregation, except Murder". True for most Congos. I guess.
uk court case - does anyone know if there are actual court cases docs online to do with a may 12th news item on the watchtower's official website?.
the news item says that the court of appeal of england and wales dismissed an application to appeal a decision of the high court upholding the watchtower's right to follow bible directives regarding disfellowshipping.. it's proving difficult to find online docs about this..
Having read through the Court Documents, one thing struck me, the Judge Ruled that the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, if it made a decision on its own, it would not make the Watchtower Society of G.B. vicariously liable for that decision. The CCJW is an independent , non-profit Charity, and as such has no great funds, and so, any Legal Action against them, cannot expect to get huge, probably deserved, payouts.
Any future legal Action that seeks damages and Costs should NOT seek them against this body, if liability, arising from say an Abuse claim, can be proved to be having a connection to Watchtower. This ruling may affect Court decisions in the U.S.A. which has a similar legal entity, staffed by JW's who have made a Vow of Poverty, if I recall. This is an attempt, by the J.W org. to avoid rightful compensation to Abuse victims in the main it seems.
I would like to find out if the poor bro. who was never paid back his Loan while this Case was in progress, ever got his money ???? I rather doubt it.
posting for brother x. petra!.
if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?
the question is; how could you forget?
I remember many bum-numbing bored to tears time at Conventions in the U.K, I used to come away after the last day slightly depressed, I could never understand people who said the enjoyed them, apart from maybe young people on the pull.
One time we sat behind a friend from our Congregation, who was saving a good number of seats, a little upstart Attendant told him he could not save so many seats, my friend said " But they are for my family", the little Hitler said well can you move the books saving seats for your family, and I will find you somewhere else " (Why ? just to show his power ? ) my friend said " O.K. That's fine, if you can find somewhere better for all of us", Protonazi asked " How many seats does your family require ? ", my friend answered " 23" ! Which was true ! all his extended family from various parts of the Country were turning up. Little Hitler scuttled off, and said no more.
one thing that aggravates me is long concluding prayers, especially at the midweek meeting.
you work all day, rush home, grab a quick bite, dress up in meeting clothes.
then, go to the meeting.
I remember two funny occasions where loooooooong Prayers were involved, the first was at a Circuit Convention, the guy went on and on, obviously trying to impress the C.O and D.O. with how "spiritual" he was, all of a sudden, a bro from our Congregation had had enough,and slammed his briefcase shut, stood up and loudly said " I've had enough of this !" and stomped out ! I really admire him for that !
The second was when an Elder was obviously the worse for drink, he had been slurring his words when he took one of the parts on the Service Meeting, some fool asked him to do the final prayer, not only did it go on, it was incomprehensible and the slurring had got worse !
He was taken to task at the next meeting by the other Elders, and admitted he had enjoyed " just a Wee Dram" ( he was Scottish) before coming to the meeting, but said he has mixed it by mistake with some Anti-biotics he was taking, and they had multiplied the effects of that Wee Dram ! They accepted his excuse, and no further action was taken .
Here you go smiddy !
