Posts by Phizzy

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--- the queen, prettiest "king of the south" you have ever seen!

by waton in

when daniel was discussed in the cherished private home "book study", that was the slogan that had been coined:.

zenobia of palmyra, the queen, prettiest king of the south you have ver seen, sung to some ditty melody.

making, having fun then.

Phizzy

This is not an "Update", the change to the King of the North etc, by the Watchtower. It is a complete denial that what they taught as "truth", was in fact truth, it was nothing of the kind, as neither has been every rejected explanation of Scripture by them.

If you point this out, they come up with the phrase "Present truth", but , as Charles Taze Russell pointed out, if what was taught was truth, then "new truth" would simply add to that truth, if the latter was totally rejected, it was not truth.

They therefore show that they have mostly taught error, for 150 years nearly, as truth, and yet if you did not swallow down this utter Bullshit at the time, you would be out on your ear , and lose family and friends.

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ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

by minimus in

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i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

Phizzy

I forgot to add, Thank You Anna Marina, for your comments, most helpful, and they have further added to my knowledge !

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ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

by minimus in

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i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

Phizzy

I was born in, and in for nearly 6 decades. My critical Thinking skills were close to Nil. But, I had ever since I was very young, a thirst for knowledge, which I still have. I always read a lot. Still do.

But most of my J.W contemporaries were downright lazy, they read little, and thought less, I think the ones who read a fair bit and thought a bit, nearly all left before me. In fact one Elder said to me " We are losing all the intelligent ones", which made me wonder, but not quite enough at that time.

I think the ones who have left in the last few years are often of the " Lazy Class" LOL, so used to having been spoon fed what they should read and think, that they have lazy reading habits, and nil Critical Thinking skills. You can see that by the comments they make on here , and the questions they ask. of course there are exceptions to this generalisation.

It does take a little effort to read enough, and then you need to Fact Check what you have read, google etc can often be false friends.

But it is such a joy to be able to spot bullshit straight away, or at least in a short time of Fact Checking, such a joy to round out your knowledge, and a joy to not be misled.

The Lazy Class are not using their freedom as they should, and are missing out on becoming what they should.

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Will Covid 19 deaths exceed 'flu deaths in the U.K.?

by BoogerMan in

i hope not.

thankfully, c19 appears to be waning as the summer comes in.. 2017/18 'flu deaths: england & wales = 50,100, scotland - 23,137, & n.i.

- 1500. total = 74,637.

Phizzy

There have been more than 290,000 confirmed cases of corona virus in the UK and just over 41,000 people have lost their lives, Government figures show.

The estimate for the real number of deaths is in excess of 60,000 due to a lag in reporting and collating, plus a good number go unreported, this figure of in excess of 60K is obviously a guess, but made by people who are respected.

I see no sign of a " Flattening of the Curve (s)" yet.The curve for total Cases, and the other for Total Deaths.

We are, sadly, creeping toward the 74,000 mark.

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Beards in the WT: Africa too

by neat blue dog in

as many know, african languages have for decades been given their own alternate cover with black people.

their cover for the 2020 wt#3 also includes a bearded man.

this can not be a coincidence.

Phizzy

Yes BB, some context would be appreciated, what does the Text on the Cover say ?

There are 446 million Muslims in Africa, so two things come to mind, either this is supposed to be a Muslim family, or the wife and little girl are shown in such garb so as to appeal to the Muslim audience, without actually saying they are Muslim.

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Brutality

by Anna Marina in

wt says jesus became invisibly present in 1914. what a load of old rubbish.

but they are not the only ones.. in 1927 a woman called helen keller wrote a book called my religion.

her book advocates the teachings of emanuel swedenborg who claimed that jesus had already returned.

Phizzy

Funny you should mention Emanuel Swedenborg, I have a complete set of his works, (Books) , up in the Loft, I must get them down and have a read. I remember glancing through them when I bought them at an Auction when I was a young J.W.

Boy, were they weird ! all about him visiting different Planets and the people and civilisations that he found there, worse than Russell !!.

I will probably flog them on E-Bay, people collect that sort of crap.

Yes, the system, if operated by certain Elders can be really brutal, but the whole Disfellowshipping and Disassociating thing is a brutal system, designed simply to control, and to keep the likes of us telling our family and friends, The Truth About The "truth".

It is also unscriptural, if you really read the Scriptures they misuse with understanding.

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2 More Letters Arrived! (as of 2020-06-09)

by Atlantis in

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2 letters arrived.. .

2020-06-04--directions relating to covid-19----6 page letter.

2020-06-04--announcement.

Phizzy

Thank you Petra !

I just had a quick glance, will read properly tomorrow, but did I read it right, one seemed to be saying that if a DF'd or DA'd person joined a Zoom Meeting, they should come in late and leave early as they might in a K.H. meeting ???

FFS ???? What are they like ? Controlling TWATS !!!

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Fading out during the pandemic?

by Kingdavid41 in

given the current world situation with the covid-19 pandemic and so many social distancing, staying at home and self quarantining.

all meetings are currently being held on zoom assemblies and conventions are viewed via the website .

this is the perfect time to fade-out and you probably won’t even be noticed!

Phizzy

Not sure about the " may not even be noticed" bit.

The latest Letter to Elders urges yet again that Elders contact all that they can regularly, even Inactive ones, so the High Control is in overdrive rather than slacking off. I found it easy (ish) to Fade in a fairly large Congregation with lazy Elders than I think it would be now, Elders have the time to check up on you.

And have been instructed to do so.

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Saving Money While Stuck At Home

by Simon in

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so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

Phizzy

" Fancy Coffee" has never been my thing, I buy great quality beans, grind them myself, and make a better cup for pence than what they serve for about £2.50. They can keep it ! Rip Off !

Where I am not saving money, or rather am spending more, but still saving overall, is, because of boredom, I am drinking and smoking more than before Lock Down. But somehow, I have to keep somewhat sane.

We have brewed some rather nice St. Peter's I.P.A. which works out real cheap, so it is swings and roundabouts.

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Saving Money While Stuck At Home

by Simon in

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so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

Phizzy

Very good advice on this Thread ! Thank you Simon for starting it.

We have put much of it in to practice, and have ended up saving money, and getting better quality food etc at the same time. I thought that Lock Down would cost me money, instead we have been living cheaper, but better, and are now not so lazy !