Hi Sweetone!
Welcome to be board. I think you'll find alot of understanding and compassion here. Look forward to reading your posts.
PeacePipe
Lift me up, I've had enough. . .Tom Petty
i wanted to introduce myself real quick.
i was raised as a witness from the age of 10. i am now 23 yo.
i was disfellowshipped at the age of 19 for marrying a man who was studying.
Hi Sweetone!
Welcome to be board. I think you'll find alot of understanding and compassion here. Look forward to reading your posts.
PeacePipe
Lift me up, I've had enough. . .Tom Petty
ok so i hear from my bro, that he hears the fbi is saying somthing might happen on the 22nd.
the other day there were several low flying planes around the nuclear station in our area.
they were unknown, and there was not to be any schedualed flights at the time in the area.
Thanks all for the pleasant nighttime conversation. I'll be dreamin about nuclear war tonight. Seriously though, I had no idea there were so many nuclear plants on the east coast. And I thought maybe 1 plant in PA. I thought this was a safe state. This is just all to nuts. But speaking of T2: I might just turn into the next Linda Hamilton. I believe in protecting myself and family. Though she had more than 2 days to prepare.
PeacePipe
Lift me up, I've had enough. . .Tom Petty
as freedom of thought& religious fanaticism is so often a subject on this board i thought this writing may be of interest to some of you.
i found it very moving.
.. first battle.
As freedom of thought& religious fanaticism is so often a subject on this board I thought this writing may be of interest to some of you. I found it very moving. . . .
First Battle
By Jim Quinn
Quinn in the Morning
www.warroom.com
As we sift through football fields of rubble with cement dust clogging our eyes and throats it may hardly seem that there is victory anywhere in this landscape of catastrophe, but there is. The first battle of the war has been fought and it was a decisive victory for America. It didn't happen on the ground, it just ended up there. It happened sometime between 10:00 am and 10:37 am in the sky over Somerset PA on United Flight 93.This was not just a symbolic victory; it was a win for the practical utility of freedom versus the robotic behavior of programmed fanaticism. In other words, it was a test of who we are versus who they are, and we won!
While there is some evidence that our military may have been forced to make a terrible choice last Tuesday it's clear that with or without an "assist" from one of our flyers, whom we shall hold blameless. The other members of our military on board the plane had already made their decision. The contents of cell phone calls from the plane bear witness to this. "But military?? what in the world are you talking about Quinn? Allow me to explain. These people weren't in the military when they boarded the plane. They enlisted in flight. They did it without a recruiter. There was no paper work and no promise of a college education or a career skill to secure their future. They signed up knowing their future would be less than 15 minutes.
The significance of the outcome of this battle will be lost on these over funded, over educated, oil saturated former Nomads. It should make them drop to their knees and make them pray to Allah for forgiveness, but it won't. Here's why:
The Battle of Fight 93 was a short but decisive encounter where the fanatic met the free. Where a group of people who have been programmed from birth to believe in the sanctity of self destruction and mass murder in the name of a god who does not exist as they envision him, came face to face with something they never understood; free people who are used to thinking for themselves.
It took decades of preparation, training and pseudo religious indoctrination to prepare these men to sacrifice their lives for their twisted purpose. It took a bunch of free Americans about two minutes to prepare to sacrifice theirs. These men and women who began their day with a toothbrush and a plane ticket and nothing more on their plate than the expectation of a business meeting and dinner at Fisherman's Wharf; these people with husbands, wives and children to consider, unhesitatingly chose to give their lives for their fellow Americans in less time than it takes to boil an egg.
Advantage: Freedom!
As I write this, God is probably hearing from a vast number of people He hasn't heard from in a while. In times of difficulty we are moved to turn back to that which we have neglected. Freedom will be the tool of victory in all battles as it was in this one. It is of desperate importance that we understand from whence the tool of victory emanates. You'll find it in the writings of the Framers of our Constitution. Faith and Freedom will triumph over fanaticism.
In those few dreadful seconds over Somerset, the template for the coming battles emerged from the fires in which they were forged. Free Americans fought the first battle "on the fly" and "by the seats of their pants". They did it with the only tool they had the resourcefulness of people who can still think for themselves. They earned victory and the admiration of the Free World. The fanatics earned a smoking hole in the ground.
ok so i hear from my bro, that he hears the fbi is saying somthing might happen on the 22nd.
the other day there were several low flying planes around the nuclear station in our area.
they were unknown, and there was not to be any schedualed flights at the time in the area.
I've been hearing Saturday. . . . the 22. . . something is going to happen. . . .
What is going to happen? What kind of dry run? Why are there so may blue triangles in PA!!!!!
PLEEEEEAAAAAASE EXPLAIN!!!!
(I've been Ms. Paranoia about all this and everyone else I know just wants to get back to life as usual which I don't think will ever be again)
Thanks :)
Troubled,
I wish you'd reconsider staying around and commenting. I lurk more than post but there are others like you around here & I'm probably one of them. It's just sometimes hard to tell who is who(JW, non-JW, never JW etc). If you'd like to talk through e-mails one on one feel free to e-mail me @ [email protected]. I'd like to hear your story. And also, I know some posters seem harsh at times but just remember if there are no diffent view points then their isn't much to discuss.
Good Luck in you quest for knowledge whatever you decide.
PeacePipe
Lift me up, I've had enough. . .Tom Petty
hello, amazing.. your thread to angry to say much is the first post i've read today since getting home from work.
i found it on page four.
as i type this, senator daschle has just made the statement on abc tv that the world has "fundamentally changed" since the events of yesterday.
My theory would be maybe someone on the inside is trying to sabatoge George Bush, and seeing him fall on his face in this mess would probably do the job. This person(s) would have agenda's with other outside "neutral" countries. Money would be involved and the culprit would probably never be suspected. Someone who always seems to get off things scotch free.
Though that is just a hypothetical theory.
i may get some flack for posting this, but i read it and was moved to tears.
they are not my words - it was written by toronto, canada's tv journalist/commentator gordon sinclair.
these words are the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the congressional record:.
Great Thread! I was watching the news this evening and it showed people in New York holding candlelight vigils outside the hospital in Manhattan. Also vigil service in DC where the Star Spangled Banner was being sung. All over people are coming together to support one another and pray for peace. There are more volunteers than are even needed right now. NY stopped the blood coming in because so much poured in they had to say they had enough right now. Americans are NOT evil. The stories that are coming out about the people who called their families on their cell phones from the doomed planes and others who lost their lives are heartbreaking. All those people are heroic. Yes, there are those that are of questionable morals amongst us but I think the majority of people are good and though differences may arise we are free to say what we want as citizens in our quest for "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Our country has such an amazing history and the melting pot of people that make this country come together in times like these to show support for their fellow citizens. It's sad it has to take bad times to remember the good in us all.
I am also troubled recently that any group of people can denounce what we stand for: our patriotism, our country, our flag. I feel part of something great when I see and hear stories of US citizens. And in times like these our flag and our songs symbolize that. I am for world peace and unity. I am against all killing. But I live in America. It would be hard to take a neutral stance as part of a religious dogma when our country was built on a belief in God. And I could not turn my back in times like this because "I am no part of this world". Quite frankly I am.
i was just wondering, how many planes were confirmed hijacked, or missing?
early on i had a figure of 8. later news broadcasts only talked about 4 planes-2 @ wtc towers, 1@ the pentagon, and the one in pa.. my sis mentioned a plane going down in denver, and another friend told me that authorities are keeping a hush-hush on 3 planes that were shot down by our forces.. has anyone else heard of these incidents?
just curious.. boozy
Very Weird,
Between the threads on the "911" poster and Cassilines research into the name of that poster and the mystery plane etc, really makes you wonder what was really going on.
as anyone any information on the fourth plane that apparently crashed in rural country?.
was it shot down?.
the news agencies seem very quiet about it!.
Abaddon,
Absolutely!
i was just wondering, how many planes were confirmed hijacked, or missing?
early on i had a figure of 8. later news broadcasts only talked about 4 planes-2 @ wtc towers, 1@ the pentagon, and the one in pa.. my sis mentioned a plane going down in denver, and another friend told me that authorities are keeping a hush-hush on 3 planes that were shot down by our forces.. has anyone else heard of these incidents?
just curious.. boozy
BoozeRunner, you might be interested in "the fourth plane" thread.
Also, late morning on Tues in PA it was reported that there were 2 additional planes hijacked. 1 out of Pittsburgh & ? oringination on the other. Later they reported the one out of Pittsburgh was not Hijacked; however, most of the day today it was reported here that a 5th plane went down. The weird thing was they never said where. Everyone was asking "why won't they tell us where it went down?" Funny though, by the time I got home from work and have been watching the reports since I've heard no more mention of this other plane but I can tell you 100% there were reports on the news of another plane crashing. They would give that info and then they would just end the sentence, that's it. I and many others heard that report today.