Posts by BoogerMan

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Annual Meeting live updates

by ukpimo in

i have obtained the live link for the annual meeting tomorrow:.

annual meeting live link.

the meeting will begin at 9:45am eastern time, for those of us in the uk, that will be 2:45pm.

"We're running out of young & healthy free labour within Branches and for our expanding real estate business, so please put as much ~~pressure~~ encouragement on the congregation kids to sign up ASAP."

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Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

by slimboyfat in

the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

BoogerMan

(Matthew 20:28) "Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”

(Luke 19:10) "For the Son of man came to seek and to save what was lost.” (Exactly what did Adam lose???????)

(1 Corinthians 15:22) "For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive."

(1 Corinthians 15:45) "So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam (Jesus) became a life-giving spirit."

(1 Timothy 2:5, 6) "...Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all..." (that's exactly what a ransom does - it corresponds to what was lost, nothing more, nothing less)

(Isaiah 9:6) "His name will be called...Eternal Father..." (replacing Adam and becoming mankind's "surrogate" lifegiver)

Bottom line: No amount of Scriptural gymnastics or theological wishful thinking will get anyone into heaven. Adam never lost that hope or expectation for anyone, so no one can complain if they're upset at facing the same kind of life which all of Adam's descendants would have had - if he hadn't blown it.

Jesus is the first & last - human to ever be resurrected to heaven.

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Flight MH370 - very thought provoking discussion.

by BoogerMan in

this video presents some sinister claims & info.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r77zt6jku&t=4234s.

BoogerMan

This video presents some sinister claims & info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU&t=4234s

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OPEN LETTER TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

by Raimundo in

i wanted to share with you a letter that is circulating in some spanish-speaking congregations.

it is about the covid-19 vaccine and the governing body.

there is an english translation that i got today and i put it in the links.

BoogerMan

Matthew 7:6 - “Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine."

Sums up anyone's attempts to reason with the ~~faithful~~ evil slave. A complete waste of time, ink, & paper.

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Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

by slimboyfat in

say it ain’t so!

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in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

BoogerMan

@ SBF -

The Watchtower—Study Edition | May 2024

"A limited number, 144,000 in all, of Christ’s faithful followers will receive a resurrection to immortal life in heaven."

By coincidence, this is the, "What we know/what we don't know" issue.

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New Zealand Rejects JW final appear for abuse in care exemption

by blondie in

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption .

BoogerMan

The org sold that real estate and Branch office to the Elim Church. 😄😄😄😄😄

https://jwtalk.net/topic/11307-new-zealand-branch-sold/

If a R & F JW carried out such a business transaction with "Babylon the Great," they'd be rushed into a judicial!!!

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NO SUPPORT FOR EXJWS DRAFTED IN UKRAINE

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.

here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.

spoiler alert—they didn’t.

BoogerMan

On the subject of the O.P. - Are governments (e.g. Ukraine) now insisting that to be a conscientious objector, you have to be a signed up member of a Christian denomination/sect?

Romans 8:38, 39 - "For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments (nor the WTBTS) nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Surely a faith is a faith - even for non-denominational Christians?

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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

sad because these people expected to be lifers.

now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

BoogerMan

Bethelites are the "Eve class" - . . .thoroughly deceived . . . (1 Timothy 2:14)

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Thought For the Day - for PIMI JW's

by BoogerMan in

which name does the evil faithful slave's literature demand that you focus on - jehovah or jesus?.

do jesus & the bible agree with the org's obsession with the name 'jehovah', or was jesus just being presumptuous?

(matthew 10:22) and you will be objects of hatred by all people on account and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me.... (matthew 18:20) for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.”.

BoogerMan

Which name does the ~~evil~~ faithful slave's literature demand that you focus on - Jehovah or Jesus?

Do Jesus & the Bible agree with the org's obsession with the name 'Jehovah', or was Jesus just being presumptuous?

(Matthew 10:22) And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me...

(Matthew 18:20) For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

(Matthew 19:29) And everyone that has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive many times more and will inherit everlasting life.

(Matthew 24:5) ...for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’

(Matthew 24:9) ....and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.

(Mark 9:39) ...for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me;

(Mark 13:6) Many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and will mislead many.

(Mark 13:13) ...and YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name.

(Mark 16:17) By the use of my name they will expel demons,...

(Luke 9:48) “Whoever receives this young child on the basis of my name receives me...

(Luke 21:8) ....for many will come on the basis of my name,...

(Luke 21:12) YOU being haled before kings and governors for the sake of my name.

(Luke 21:17) ...and YOU will be objects of hatred by all people because of my name.

(John 14:13, 14) ...whatever it is that YOU ask in my name, I will do this, in order that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. If YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it.

(John 14:26) But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name,...

(John 15:16) ....in order that no matter what YOU ask the Father in my name he might give it to YOU.

(John 15:21) But they will do all these things against YOU on account of my name,...

(John 16:23, 24) If YOU ask the Father for anything he will give it to YOU in my name. Until this present time YOU have not asked a single thing in my name.

(John 16:26) In that day YOU will ask in my name,...

(Acts 9:15, 16) But the Lord said to him: “Be on your way, because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel. For I shall show him plainly how many things he must suffer for my name.”

For more proof, simply COPY each block of these scriptures and PASTE them into the WT CD ROM search bar.

Every scripture will then be opened up for reading, to help you see whose name is to be witnessed for:

Matthew 10:18; Mark 13:9; Luke 24:48; John 1:15; John 5:37; John 8:18; John 15:26, 27; Acts 1:8; Acts 9:15; Acts 10:39; Acts 10:43; Acts 13:31; Acts 22:15; Acts 22:20; Acts 23:11; Acts 26:16; 1 Corinthians 1:6; 1 Timothy 2:6, 7; 2 Timothy 1:8; 1 John 5:9; Revelation 1:9; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 17:6; Revelation 19:10; Revelation 20:4

........and whose name was to be relied upon:

Matthew 5:11; Matthew 12:21; Matthew 10:22; Matthew 18:5; Matthew 18:20; Matthew 19:29; Matthew 24:5; Matthew 24:9; Mark 9:39; Mark 13:6; Luke 9:48; Luke 9:49; Luke 10:17; Luke 21:8; Luke 21:12; Luke 21:16, 17; Luke 24:47; John 2:23; John 5:27, 28; John 14:26; John 15:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10; Acts 5:40; Acts 5:41; Acts 9:14-16; Acts 10:48; Acts 11:26; Acts 16:18; Acts 19:5; Acts 21:13; Acts 22:16; 1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:15; Philippians 2:10; Revelation 2:3; Revelation 2:13

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Watchtowers billion$

by lastmanstanding in

serena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.

photo: pa. .

john mulligan.

BoogerMan

I'll send you the info in a D.M. - along with bank details & PIN number. 😁

I trust the media implicitly, BTW.