We're NOT apostates. That's the org's pejorative description of anyone who disagrees with their dogmas.
We're heretics.
Hope you find the real truth before you find a JW husband. Try examining what you're told is truth. (1 John 4:1)
BoogerMan
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I want a marriage mate that’s a brother
by Lace83 inhi, my name is leacy and i am 41 years old.
i live in california.
i attend the rancho santa margarita congregation.
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JW Lawyer in Norway uses "theocratic warfare" to conceal the org's controlling language!
by BoogerMan inin the org's vocabulary, the term "independent thinking" is applied pejoratively to any jw who thinks & reasons for themselves.
the org's lawyer knew exactly what he was doing in court when he voiced his carefully prepared words:.
"watchtowers lawyer anders ryssdal compares jehovah’s witnesses’ baptism to the norwegian state church’s confirmation of 15-year-olds, arguing that their baptism is no different.
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In the org's vocabulary, the term "independent thinking" is applied pejoratively to any JW who thinks & reasons for themselves.
The org's lawyer knew exactly what he was doing in court when he voiced his carefully prepared words:
"Watchtowers Lawyer Anders Ryssdal compares Jehovah’s Witnesses’ baptism to the Norwegian state church’s confirmation of 15-year-olds, arguing that their baptism is no different. Membership is open to everyone, and anyone can leave. Ryssdal claims that if children are baptized too early, it is the parents’ fault - not Jehovah’s Witnesses. He argues that it is not the organization’s responsibility if some members are overly zealous. Children must learn to think independently * before they are baptized." (https://avoidjw.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-appeal-days-7-9-closing-arguments/)
* w14 10/1 p. 14 - "When I was 17 years old, my parents returned to Germany. At first, I lived under their roof. But my independent attitude made it impossible for me to integrate back into the family. At the age of 18, I left home."
w12 2/15 p. 21 par. 12 - "We are wise to limit our association with people who are negative or who are promoting an independent attitude."
km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box: Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research...? "No, it does not. And yet, in various parts of the world, a few associates of our organization have formed groups to do independent research on Bible-related subjects."
w06 1/1 p. 29 par. 17 - "...it is vital that we...cooperate with “the faithful and discreet slave” and the congregation elders. That is a way to...protect us from developing an independent spirit."
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SHE EXPOSED THE MADNESS OF JW MINISTRY!
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/f50tjtm8fds?si=h1ptb5aceiqbwmo6.
in 2025, the jehovah’s witnesses have taken their doctrine of isolation to a new extreme.
once known for their door-to-door evangelism, they now stand silently beside literature carts, refusing to engage in meaningful conversation with the public.
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She's neither looking for "answers" about JW beliefs - because she already knows them - nor is she trying to engage in a friendly Christian discussion by insisting on recording the interchange. She exposed herself!
Any sane & reasonable person would politely tell her to switch off the device - or no conversation.
If she repeats the charade, the JW's should say nothing and just smile & wave!
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Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?
by BoogerMan inhaving watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.
"naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,
of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.
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@ hoser - "Removed." Keep up!
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The org's failed last days predictions were "well meant."
by BoogerMan inw93 6/1 p. 15 par.
6 be sound in mind - the end is close - "of course, well-meaning, faithful christians in the past have sincerely tried to predict when the end would come.".
more than 140 years of a sincere & well-meaning "it's coming soon" from the org, can be swept under the carpet - nothing to see here!.
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w93 6/1 p. 15 par. 6 Be Sound in Mind - The End Is Close - "Of course, well-meaning, faithful Christians in the past have sincerely tried to predict when the end would come."
That's OK then. 😄
More than 140 years of a sincere & well-meaning "it's coming soon" from the org, can be swept under the carpet - nothing to see here!
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Identifying the Faking and Deceitful Slave
by Sea Breeze injehovah's witness founder, c. t. russell claimed to be the mouthpiece of god (zion's watch tower 1906 jul 15 p.230), later the organization he left behind claimed to be god's mouthpiece.
scripture is adamant that the word of god only applies to jesus christ and no other.
they claim to be the "mouthpiece" of god like jesus, and that the time is near.
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No, no, no, I won't have that!
One of the current Governing Body/Faithful Slave members (Geoffrey Jackson) swore on the Bible and told the Australian Royal Commission that it would be presumptious of the org to claim that they were God's only spokespersons on earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRoMjnjy7yQ
Do not contradict what the 'slave' says - even if it sounds
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Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?
by BoogerMan inhaving watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.
"naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,
of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.
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@raymond frantz - My opinion on who the great crowd is or isn't, wasn't what was being referred to.
I supplied 100% accurate information from Strong's Lexicon regarding the symbolic meaning of "temple" and provided seven scriptures (perfect number!) which conclusively prove & harmonise with the Lexicon's explanation.
Why someone somewhere should decide that accurate & truthful information - as well as Holy Scriptures - should be censored/deleted is anyone's guess - but it's exactly what the Borg does. 😀
And why anyone would downvote truthful statements..................................
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Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?
by BoogerMan inhaving watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.
"naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,
of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.
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Having watched the latest offering from Beroean Pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuELGTf4kA - I contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating Scriptures:
"NAOS - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ, of a company of Christians, a Christian church, as dwelt in by the Spirit of God." (https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g3485/kjv/tr/0-1/)
(1 Corinthians 3:16, 17) "Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple."
(1 Corinthians 6:19) "Do you not know that your body is the temple...."
(2 Corinthians 6:16) "For we are a temple of a living God;”
(Ephesians 2:21, 22) "In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him you too are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit."
(1 Peter 2:5) "...you yourselves as living stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood."
For some strange reason the information either disappeared or was deleted by YouTube - twice!
I thought I'd submit it here for anyone who's interested in what some Scriptures say.
Maybe someone will copy & paste it and try to submit it again on Beroean Pickets.
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The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.
rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.
while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.
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Every tribe, people, tongue, and nation will be "offered a choice" - to worship either the wild beast or God Almighty.
Revelation 13:7 appears to indicate that these ones are separate from existing Christians ("holy ones") while Revelation 7:14 shows that a great crowd of them choose wisely.
(Revelation 7:9,14) "After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands......“These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
(Revelation 13:7, 8) "It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it."
(Revelation 14:6, 7) "And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people....worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and the springs of water.”
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What's a Good Question to Ask at the Door?
by NotFormer inthe jws haven't been to my door for a while, but i don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*.
(i saw easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄).
what's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?.
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R & F JW's are instructed by the Borg that the other sheep "class" are the anti-type of the foreigners from the Exodus who were not participants of the Mosaic Covenant.
As such, the O.S. class of Christians are not participants of the New Covenant, and should not partake of the emblems at the Memorial! 🤣
What Does the Bible Really Teach? My question to JW's:
Were foreigners participants of the Mosaic Covenant?
wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6 - "Further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the Law covenant. In what way? Not by becoming participants in it but by submitting to the laws associated with it and benefiting from its arrangements."
Deuteronomy 29:10-15 clearly shows that this is a false teaching:
10 “All of you are stationed today before Jehovah your God, the heads of your tribes, your elders, your officers, every man of Israel, 11 your children, your wives, and your foreign resident who is in the midst of your camp, from the one gathering your wood to the one drawing your water. 12 You (everyone present!) are here in order to enter into the covenant of Jehovah your God and his oath, which Jehovah your God is making with you today 13 in order that he may establish you (everyone present!) today as his people and that he may be your God, just as he has promised you and just as he swore to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 14 "Now it is not with you alone that I am making this covenant and this oath,
15 but it is with those standing here with us today before Jehovah our God and with those who are not here with us today."
Rahab and Ruth were foreigners and accepted as full members of the nation of Israel. If they hadn't been, the Messianic lineage would have been corrupted by non-Israelites. They and their descendants all received inheritances in the nation of Israel. The following scriptures conclusively demonstrate that the WTBTS contradicts and lies about those who become "one flock, one shepherd." (John 10:16)
(Exodus 12:48, 49) "If a foreigner resides with you and he wants to celebrate the Passover to Jehovah, every male of his must be circumcised. Then he may come near to celebrate it, and he will become like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised man may eat of it. One law will apply for the native and for the foreigner who is residing among you.”
(Ezekiel 47:21-23) “You are to apportion this land among yourselves, among the 12 tribes of Israel. You should distribute it for inheritance among yourselves and to the foreigners residing with you who have had children while living among you; and they will be like native-born Israelites to you. They will receive an inheritance among the tribes of Israel along with you. You should give the foreign resident an inheritance in the territory of the tribe where he has taken up residence,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah."