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  THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

  these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

  these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

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  @ Raymond Frantz - Jody Jedele doesn't seem to lack the "experience" which the Org needs! 🤣

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdlcjdz2fvI&t=79s
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  Why do most ordinary Christians agree with JWs that Jesus is God’s first creation?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a book which attempts to refute jw christology, the trinitarian scholar greg lanier begins his argument with the surprising admission that a majority of evangelical christians agree with jws that jesus is god’s first creation.

  a 2018 survey by ligonier ministries and lifeway research found that nearly 95 percent of self-described evangelical christians affirm the trinity, but simultaneously, about 80 percent believe that jesus christ is the "first and greatest being created by god.

  " the shocking thing is that these respondents do not appear to realize the stark contradiction in these two positions.. greg lanier, is jesus truly god?

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  Isaiah 9:6 - "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

  How can any part of the alleged triune "God Almighty" be a prince of anything???????????

  A king, surely!
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  Annual Meeting live updates

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have obtained the live link for the annual meeting tomorrow:.

  annual meeting live link.

  the meeting will begin at 9:45am eastern time, for those of us in the uk, that will be 2:45pm.

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  Overwhelming message:

  "We're running out of young & healthy free labour within Branches and for our expanding real estate business, so please put as much pressure encouragement on the congregation kids to sign up ASAP."
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  Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

  even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

  yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

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  (Matthew 20:28) "Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”

  (Luke 19:10) "For the Son of man came to seek and to save what was lost.” (Exactly what did Adam lose???????)
  

  (1 Corinthians 15:22) "For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive."
  

  (1 Corinthians 15:45) "So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam (Jesus) became a life-giving spirit."
  

  (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) "...Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all..." (that's exactly what a ransom does - it corresponds to what was lost, nothing more, nothing less)
  

  (Isaiah 9:6) "His name will be called...Eternal Father..." (replacing Adam and becoming mankind's "surrogate" lifegiver)
  

  Bottom line: No amount of Scriptural gymnastics or theological wishful thinking will get anyone into heaven. Adam never lost that hope or expectation for anyone, so no one can complain if they're upset at facing the same kind of life which all of Adam's descendants would have had - if he hadn't blown it.
  

  Jesus is the first & last - human to ever be resurrected to heaven.
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  Flight MH370 - very thought provoking discussion.

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. current

  this video presents some sinister claims & info.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r77zt6jku&t=4234s.

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  This video presents some sinister claims & info.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU&t=4234s
  
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  OPEN LETTER TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by Raimundo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to share with you a letter that is circulating in some spanish-speaking congregations.

  it is about the covid-19 vaccine and the governing body.

  there is an english translation that i got today and i put it in the links.

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  Matthew 7:6 - “Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine."

  Sums up anyone's attempts to reason with the faithful evil slave. A complete waste of time, ink, & paper.

  
  
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  @ SBF -

  The Watchtower—Study Edition | May 2024

  "A limited number, 144,000 in all, of Christ’s faithful followers will receive a resurrection to immortal life in heaven."

  By coincidence, this is the, "What we know/what we don't know" issue.
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  New Zealand Rejects JW final appear for abuse in care exemption

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption .

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  The org sold that real estate and Branch office to the Elim Church. 😄😄😄😄😄

  https://jwtalk.net/topic/11307-new-zealand-branch-sold/

  If a R & F JW carried out such a business transaction with "Babylon the Great," they'd be rushed into a judicial!!!
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  NO SUPPORT FOR EXJWS DRAFTED IN UKRAINE

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.

  here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.

  spoiler alert—they didn’t.

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  On the subject of the O.P. - Are governments (e.g. Ukraine) now insisting that to be a conscientious objector, you have to be a signed up member of a Christian denomination/sect?

  Romans 8:38, 39 - "For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments (nor the WTBTS) nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

  Surely a faith is a faith - even for non-denominational Christians?

  
  
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  Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

  sad because these people expected to be lifers.

  now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

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  Bethelites are the "Eve class" - . . .thoroughly deceived . . . (1 Timothy 2:14)