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  New World, New World Order, New System of Things

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  the wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.

  more though, but these occurred to me first.

  also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..

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  In 1974 "the New Order" was cool.

  w74 12/15 pp. 765-766 par. 36 - "And now, as the year 1975 opens up, some thousands of the anointed remnant, still alive on this earth, look ahead to realizing that joyful prospect. The increasing “great crowd” of their sheeplike companions look forward with them to entering the New Order without interruption of life. In the New Order Jehovah God will add to the “length of days” of the anointed remnant on earth to the point of satisfying the members thereof. It remains to be seen whether they will be yet retained here on earth to see the start of the resurrection of the earthly dead and to meet faithful witnesses of ancient, pre-Christian times."

  From 1952 until 1966, a new world order was the in-phrase:

  w66 12/1 p. 730 - "They will enjoy the fine privilege of seeing Satan’s complete organization on earth and all wickedness destroyed off of it and the dawning of a righteous new day in which a new world order under the peaceful kingdom of Christ will be ushered in to rule everlastingly."

  w52 7/15 p. 432 par. 1 - "From these it is possible to obtain a clearing vision of the details which will operate in the new world order of things.... God’s dealings with those ancient societies foreshadowed many developments in the new world order of things."

  w52 11/15 pp. 696-697 pars. 3 - 5 - "...they were given authority to become God’s children with the promise of everlasting life in that new world order, that new heavens and new earth where righteousness dwells....The answer is, because God not only determined and set his mind on that new world order.....From the foregoing we can appreciate it is not an impersonal kind of love that God has for a certain arrangement. That new world order under God’s kingdom is made up of individuals..."

  But how did the self-proclaimed "slave" come up with this non-Biblical catchphrase?

  w50 6/1 p. 171 - "The new world means more than the nations realize. It calls for more than they can muster. The bald fact is that they do not want it. For that reason the promised new world of lasting peace should not be confused with the so-called “new order” or “new world order” that was held up and widely advertised a few years ago by the political and religious dictators as a lure to the people."

  Oops!!! From Babylon the Great & the wild beast, no less. (surely they broke copyright laws!!!) 🤣

  The Awake! magazine is awash with articles which mention the new world order.
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  What is this?

  by Achille in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this image is from "the watchtower" july 2024 (study edition):i can't figure out what that object is that is between the sleeping apostles.wath is it?

  a stick, a scroll of the scriptures?

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  @ ron w -

  
  
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  New World, New World Order, New System of Things

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.

  more though, but these occurred to me first.

  also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..

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  The Borg should've just stuck to the official wording. 😀

  (Isaiah 65:17) "For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth;"

  (Isaiah 66:22) “For just as the new heavens and the new earth that I am making...”

  (2 Peter 3:13) "But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting...."

  (Revelation 21:1) "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth;"
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  What is this?

  by Achille in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this image is from "the watchtower" july 2024 (study edition):i can't figure out what that object is that is between the sleeping apostles.wath is it?

  a stick, a scroll of the scriptures?

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  In the right hand picture - at the top of the page in the middle - there is a pretty clear depiction of what looks like the head of a baby. Its brow and eyes are visible, and the nose is illuminated by a light.

  Copy & enlarge it.

  
  
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  it-1 p. 493 Communication - "When the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in Jerusalem......"

  it-1 p. 881 Galatians, Letter to the - "By reason of a revelation, Paul, with Barnabas and Titus, went to Jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from James, Peter, and John, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations." (Galatians 2:1-10)

  According to the Bible, (which never implies let alone mentions a "governing body") the apostle Paul was used to resolve the circumcision issue.

  It was he who instructed the mythical "governing body" and they had to listen! They then agreed with Paul's direction.

  (Galatians 2:6) "But regarding those who seemed to be important...those highly regarded men ("governing body" 🤣) imparted nothing new to me."

  
  

  
  
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  GB being sued as a group and named individually in a child sexual abuse coverup.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is a court case filed in august 2021 by the zalkin law firm.

  deborah hines vs watchtower and the governing body.. what's interesting is;.

  "ny already set a precedent that an unincorporated group can be sued for its action and has specifically said this case can move forward.

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  Several years ago, I reasoned that since the WTBTS multi-billion dollar business corporation was an integral part of "the system" - based upon its wealth, influence, and the "contacts" it has accrued - then it would be granted certain favours/protections by some of these contacts.

  As such, I'll not hold my breath waiting for the JW hierarchy to be punished jointly/severally by a U.S. court.

  Sorry for being a doubting-Thomas.
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  What are some of the more exceptional self-authenticating claims made by Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's start the ball rolling with two connected claims.. the religion of jehovah’s witnesses is the one true religion.

  all other religions are satanic, including all the churches of christendom..

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  Spiritism (talking to dead humans) is wrong, but it's OK for the Governing Body to do it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣The Org Communicates With Dead Humans:

  re chap. 20 p. 125 par. 17 - "This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group ("anointed Christians") may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today."

  w07 1/1 p. 28 par. 11 - “The First Resurrection”—Now Under Way! - "It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group ("anointed Christians") may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935."

  The Governing Body's voice is the same as Jehovah's!

  w57 6/15 p. 370 par. 7 - "It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision."
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  Don't you just love LITERATURE truths?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as jw's we swallowed such concoctions for years - without a single scripture provided as proof!.

  w71 12/15 p. 759 - "apparently, the apostle peter was the chairman of the governing body on the festival day of pentecost of 33 c.e., and the disciple james, the half brother of jesus christ, was the chairman at a later date, according to the account in acts of apostles.

  from this, and from what historical evidence there is available, the chairmanship of the governing body rotated.".

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  As JW's we swallowed such concoctions for years - without a single Scripture provided as proof!

  w71 12/15 p. 759 - "Apparently, the apostle Peter was the chairman of the governing body on the festival day of Pentecost of 33 C.E., and the disciple James, the half brother of Jesus Christ, was the chairman at a later date, according to the account in Acts of Apostles. From this, and from what historical evidence there is available, the chairmanship of the governing body rotated."

  Can someone point me to the to the account in Acts of Apostles - I'm having trouble finding it! 🤣
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  Flee to the Mountains......What Mountains?

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  may 2025 study article 21 seek the city that will remain.

  what i remember was, when you see the romans, flee to the mountains.

  now the wt is saying that's not enough.

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  A) Note what Jesus said about the imminent and only tribulation to which he was warning his Jewish listeners - "For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be equaled again," and

  B) consider the context of the elder's reference to "the great tribulation" at Revelation 7:14; he was reminding John of the same great tribulation which the angel had warned about just a few minutes earlier, @ Revelation 2:22.

  You can't have a "greater" fulfillment of something which will never be repeated!
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  Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.

  "naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,

  of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.

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  Hebrews 3:6 - "Christ was faithful as a son over God’s house. We are His house." 😀