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i have always wondered why so many jws i knew suffered from the illness "m.e" previous to being a jw i never heard of this illness but when joining the borg i noticed noticed so many jws saying all of a sudden they had m.e maybe its a jw disease trend.
anyhow what does m.e stand for.. haujobbz
MIMILLY-
Thankyou for your great answer, you saved me saying it!
People who talk about M.E. in disparaging terms should try having it for a while, it'll soon scare them rigid and have them reassessing their lives and priorities.
To all of you who were negative in your remarks- I thought this site was about mutual support, not Witness bashing. Oh, and by the way whoever remarked about clinical depression and demonic overtones, you are well out of date, pal. Don't proliferate that old chestnut.
wt 8/25/2002 .
add godly devotion to your endurance 2 peter 1:5,6. in days gone by, the wt study article scriptures were quoted in entirety sometimes taking a separate paragraph.
nowadays, there are mostly snippets, only the part they want to emphasize), citations (for the publisher to look uphahathey are lucky the publisher reads the article), and occasionally when it is unavoidable, a complete scripture is quoted.
Craig-
I think the problem you are observing is a common one caused by inexperienced Witness youths rushing into ill-advised marriages because they want sex and techniaclly can't get it outside marriage. They also seem to look for someone who seems to have been round the block a few times. Not the basis of solid marriages.
"Given in to mind control by now"-- I know someone who attended evry meenting and convention of the JW's for 25 years but was never baptised or became a believer. Where's the mind control there? I suppose you'll say he was an exception to the rule!
"True love of Christ" "Worship without fear of being demon-possessed" what the hell is that all about.??????????????????????
i was laughing at the thread talking about the blue smurfs, how demonic they were.
:) it made me remember other stupid phobias the witnesses had, and how easy rumours were to spead around.
one for instance, was the false rumour about proctor and gamble, and how their business emblem/ picture/ whatever you call it was demonic, and how it was the sign of the devil, and to stay away from anything to do with that company.
I remember some brothers discussing whether to eat Mr. Whippy ice cream or not, but in our circuit this was a moot point as the assembly hall had that sort of ice cream dispenser fitted and that was often the highlight of most peoples assemblies!!
The basic rule, however, was if it had not appeared in print it was probably a rumour and ignore it. Some chose to err on the side of caution I guess, as was the case of a person ordering chicken from a resteraunt as long as they could assure him it had been bled and not strangled!
These things are fine when they are kept as personal opinions, which is what they are unless they were discussed in the pages of the WT, but some opinionated person always had to open their mouth and pass on a falsehood or half-truth, thus successfully making any who fell for it appear foolish in the eyes of others. I wouldn't attribute it to brainwashing, just general stupidity and/or lack of knowledge. How hard is it to uncover the reality for yourself in theses and similar cases? I'm sure some people started thses rumours off out of badness just to see who would get on board.
I do remember the children being told not to play with TROLLS, though. Those little dolls with the spikey multi-coloured hairdos.
i got a new wt and saw that the society president was listed as larson.
when did this happen.
boy i'm behind the times.
I got a new WT and saw that the society president was listed as Larson. When did this happen. Boy I'm behind the times.
allowing their 23 year old child to live at home even though this child makes enough money to support themselves and the parent doesn't need their financial support?.
i ask because my former best friend (who betrayed me to the elders) still lives with her mom.
she moved in a month before she got df'd even though her mom knew she was close to getting df'd.
I'm wondering why you got disfellowshipped in the first place?
The WT 'rule' is that marrying 'out of the truth' is not adviseable and not to be encouraged, someone who is insistent in this course could (and probably would) be 'marked'. This as you all know I am sure entails fellow believers cutting off social contact with the marked one, but still having to treat them as a brother within the confines of the organization. (Tricky idea)
The only legitimate reason to be disfellowshipped would be if you had been having sex with this person outside marriage and had confesssed as much. Without you confessing the elders are obliged to 'err on the side of mercy' as it is only another person's word against yours. If they don't, they are at fault, not you. I know this as a fact and from first hand experience, and it seems as if your disfellowshipping was wrong initially. That's what you should be questioning.
there are times when ilook back fondly on my days in the witnesses, especially when i think on the congregation get togethers we would have every once in awhile (not too often) people from our hall and sometimes others would show up (not too many) and good times were had by all.
this is how the schedule usually went.. 8pm: arrive at the community centre.
8:05pm: scope the room.
Why, what happened to you to divide you from your mom?
in a discussion of allowing godly principles rather than laws rule your life, para.
15 states, "following bible principles, we will avoid trying to live (or demand others to live) by an extensive and rigid set of do's and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the bible.".
i've read on this site many times that jw's are ruled by man-made rules and regulations relating to all sorts of stupid topics.
In a discussion of allowing Godly principles rather than laws rule your life, para. 15 states, "Following Bible principles, we will avoid trying to live (or demand others to live) by an extensive and rigid set of do's and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the Bible."
I've read on this site many times that JW's are ruled by man-made rules and regulations relating to all sorts of stupid topics. Do we say then that any JW who tries to enforce a man-made rule, such as being clean shaven, is not living up to the teachings of the Bible?
with all the recent hog wash going on in my life, i can't believe i am even entertaining this notion.
everybody on this board knows how i feel about this path, these beliefs, and here i am thinking, pondering wondering, maybe jehovahs witnesses do have something to offer me, maybe i need their 'close nit' love inside their congregations?
maybe i could see the truth, if i only opened my eyes to it and tried to accept it???
Just have a little tiny question to Reborn---- Could you tell me some of the man-made beliefs and teachings above and beyond the Bible? I have never come across this, only in misconceptions. Eg, many Jw's have beards, drink what they want, have every sort of heterosexual sex imaginable, where any color shirt, play chess, rely on dyalisis machines etc. etc.
I only want to know the truth, not personal ideas.
could someone give me a workable explanation of tartarus and how and what jesus preached to the imprisoned spirits there?
and while i'm in 1st peter, what is the meaning of 1 peter 4:6 where the message is to be declared to the dead?
i know what i think, but i'd love your opinions.
Hi,
I agree to a certain extent with Yeru, but again wonder how it ties in with the demons from Genesis. Also are you saying the account of the Rich Man and Lazarus is a literal teaching, as I thought it was allagorical, denoting changing positions of two groups of people with an unbreachable chasm in between. T'S Eliot deals with it well in 'The Love Song of Alfred J. Prufrock.'
Could we also consider if Hell exists but noone is actually in there? How many of you out there are true to your JW beliefs to a certain extent whilst not liking the organization?
