Posts by JakeM2012

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Receiving so much hate recently....

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

JakeM2012

Yes, I can identify with your feelings. Recently, last winter, I wanted to send a gift of high quality steaks to my Mom who has my brother living with her as he is unemployed. Yes, he hasn't been weened. I had a great year and appreciating God's grace, I wanted to share, nothing more and nothing less.

I was called by the company and they said they refused the order. On one side I regretted making the order, because they are great at making up lies and no telling what story they came up with. Then, on the other side of me, I thought, good, that shows me their heart condition. My family, as many JW families are full of hatred, anger, and intolerance.

I suggest concentrating on the windshield (the future and future friends) and just not worry about trying to sustain any relationship with your former friends associated with Jw's. Of course, be peaceable with all men as you have done. They are interpreting your kindness as antagonistic.

You can continue to do CPR on a dead person, but eventually you have to call it for what it is. They do not want a relationship with you or your wife, you are as dead to them. Take a new photo and continue "onward through the fog".

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What Should I Say?

by cookiemaster in

i need a bit of advice.

i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.

i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.

JakeM2012

Tell you have irritable bowel syndrome and find the brown spots on your pants embarrassing.

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Therapists business is booming thanks to jw's

by nowwhat? in

my wife has been a just " goes through the motions" jw all her life.

and once in while she will see a therapist to vent.

well she finally mentioned one her reasons for stress was being a witness and the therapist said she understands because she has had many clients are witnesses!

JakeM2012

Lmbo, "the one that all the elders go to!"

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Hospitality - How not to.....March 2018 study article.

by punkofnice in

what do you make of this part of the march 2018 watchtower study edition?.

2 among other things, peter urged his brothers: “be hospitable to one another.” (1 pet.

4:9) the word “hospitality” in greek literally means “fondness for, or kindness to, strangers.” note, however, that peter urged his christian brothers and sisters to be hospitable “to one another,” to those whom they already knew and associated with.

JakeM2012

It's obvious they are closing the distance in between the wagons. Maybe that's why you are not greeted even when visiting the Kingdom Hall.

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Consequences for having a non religious wedding ceraminy?

by Addison0998 in

hey i was wondering if maybe someone who is an ex elder or who knows a lot about these things could help me.

my dad is an elder but i need to be cautious with questions i ask.

now that i’ve been woken up from my brainwashed love of this corrupt corporation and from my belief in the bible, and my fiancé is starting to wake up as well, i really don’t want to have the sexist, overused, impersonal talk outline used for my wedding ceremony by some elder who is trying to show off his talk giving skills.

JakeM2012

Personally, I think you've got it. I wouldn't want a cold dead wedding by the organization book and some Watchtowers written in the 1980's.

I believe with the fait accompli method that only questions can be asked and you can just give simple "none of your business" answers.

Just make sure you have credible evidence to indicate that it was not because of premarital relations or that she is currently pregnant, (unless you are Joseph fathering the Messiah) which means you have to come up with a plan.

Questions will be asked of you even if you have it at the Kingdom Hall, even the day of the ceremony the speaker can ask you if you have "done the nasty" and good lord don't touch her breast.;)

Personally, I kinda like the edginess of running off and eloping. You know witnesses, they will talk no matter what until something else is news worthy.

Basically, you can say, "we didn't want the emotional pressure, the expense, and so forth, so that we could concentrate on spiritual goals, "we are trying to keep our life simple so we can pioneer together", (I've learned what the real meaning of the term, "Pioneering together" means)

You might add that local weddings have become competitive to out do the other and you didn't want to further the competitive spirit in the congregation.

In ancient times a man would just walk through the streets with his wife without a ceremony, everyone would know they were now married.

Make sure your paperwork is together to make it legal. IF, thats what you want to do. Also, There is nothing wrong with having a private ceremony having a person, not necessarily an elder, give your formalities, and inviting only your family.

If you are not currently the object of some "investigation" by the elders for suspicious behavior you will be all right.

Personally, I would give you a greater wedding present if I didn't have to go. I never liked the weddings. They have banished the liquor, dancing, and music at the reception; and drinking with a suit on in your car like you are a teenager is a drag.

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Fresh of the press. Bus driver for charter school faces six complaints of child abuse. He is also an elder

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/article_1a041cb4-57c5-11e8-b066-5bb6aab897ac.html.

the man in the article is an elder for two local congregations to south texas.

one of which i used to attend.

JakeM2012

I'm so glad that he has his hair and moustache trimmed so well, as recommended by the Governing Body; what a witness.

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Don't be too Christian, you'll raise red flags

by neat blue dog in

for the past few years all my comments and talks have been a purely christian message.

i tiptoe around wt dogma and focus on the basics of love, life compassion, etc.

and i deliberately do not use jw terminology whenever i can.

JakeM2012

The religion is all about inciting guilt, pummeling the body to do more. It doesn't matter how much you do, you can do more. You are unworthy of breathing. There is no grace in the religion. You are a "good for nothing slave" and should have done what you have, and even more, you "slackers".

You will never be able to prove to Jah that you are worthy of everlasting life, but you need to earn it, just disregard what the apostle Paul said. Even after 1000 years of purity, you are still an obvious secret sinner and need to be tested. But even after you are tested, you will never be a son of God. You are human. You should be thankful to clean the toilets at the kingdom hall and mow the grass and shut your mouth. How dare you use your mind to supposedly come up with a "better" way to present the message of guilt and lack of worthiness. You just don't get it. No one should ever feel that they have accomplished anything good, even if they have, everyone has missed the mark and is unworthy. Just take your anti-depressant medicines but don't ever talk to someone worldly that could help you.

Oh, and you were late to one meeting in 7 years of perfect meeting attendance.

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Rejoice cos God's tent is.... Disintegrated by a cat 5 truth storm

by Normalfulla in

just had to share... a former friend of my wife's, has just left our house, unbeknown to us, her and her husband have been inactive for about a year and a half, they have pre teen boys too.

she reached out to my wife as she had heard that we were apostates etc and needed someone to talk to.. .

after her father dying she was in a bad place mentally and emotionally and reached out to her cong for support, apon receiving 0 she turned to the bible for comfort only in her raw emotional state to realize that jehovah was a murderous unfair god and then her wheels of rational reasoning started turning.. she questioned things and was outspoken about things and attracted elder attention... long story short she wanted to connect with a friendly ear and she splurged she's never going back, the bible is all bulls**t and it's a cult, despite not knowing most of ttatt we all shared experiences and watched her eyes boggle at (stuckinarut... the first euphoric high) the un scandal, beth sarim, ray franz, 607, arc.

JakeM2012

Yes, that was an encouraging experience.

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Another enlightening reason why I don't go to meetings

by joe134cd in

i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".

i just done an eye roll and walked away.

i just can't make this stuff up..

JakeM2012

After hanging my head low for years in the cult, feeling that I was soooo unworthy of anything, when I woke up to their gig and snake oil, I made a deal with my conscience: I won't bother it and it doesn't bother me.

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Home Depot

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

i remember that some years ago there was a message with information about watchtower, was owner of home depot, and sold it.. question: was this true?

can’t find any info at google.. do you know more about it?.

g..

JakeM2012

I've been told that Jws invented the first dishwasher and that they had more cranes than any other company in the world. False!

Funny how they don't take credit for a 140 year snipe hunt for the "end of this system".