i didn't put a lot of thought into this, but this is what my little is to define religion: It is people feeling like they should worship someone and not really knowing who, so they latch on to those who claim to be in contact with this someone, not fully recognizing that the one/s they have latched onto are frauds who are seeking their own glory and power over people with a false narative. I think this statement would apply to all religions. I did mention I didn't think about this for long. Why? There are many religions claiming truth and they can't all be true while likely all have some truth in them. Some truth doesn't make them true and so they are all false and so the leaders lord it over others by setting rules for how they think their god/s should be worshipped, thus empowering themselves...( so blind guides leading the blind )
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How would you define RELIGION, and why?
by Fernando in"judge" rutherford defined or classified all religion as "a snare and a racket" in his books "religion" and "enemies".. after rutherford's death in 1942, his protege, watchtower vice president, and aclu darling, hayden c. covington, in the early 1950's, for reasons of legal expedience and supremacist aspirations, suddenly converted the watchtower into a religion.. this was done alongside one of the most audacious, spurious and longstanding swindles of the us legal system.
this involved twisting philippians 1:7 and misrepresenting the watchtower's true nature, objectives and activities.. .
this meant that it became necessary for the watchtower to suddenly reclassify and redefine religion (w51 1/15 p. 43 new legal booklet well named; w51 8/15 p. 511 questions from readers; yb75 p. 161 part 2 "for gladys bolton...").. two new watchtower classifications were suddenly created: "true religion" and "false religion".. now "true religion" meant "true beliefs" whilst "belief" in ever changing watchtower doctrine was equated with the one "faith" of scripture.. all this while the watchtower increasingly and maliciously truncated, obfuscated and hid the liberating full "good news" (or unabridged gospel) of scripture, which it lyingly claimed (in court) that it was actually "defending and legally establishing".. how would you have defined religion before learning ttatt?.
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Black penis and other subliminal messages on song book
by Mikejw ini’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.. this chap phoned bethel in london about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said i’m hanging up now.
they obviously know about it.. https://youtu.be/0dn-gj73r5u?si=ao4cd-0rpg7rv3ws.
so was there some pimos in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the rev book?.
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enoughisenough
this was mentioned before about art being "channeled" -I think Marcus on youtube did the video. When the GB say they are God's "channel"-yeah, but which god? Why even use the word channel? Don't we associate it with spiritism? I think they are under demonic influance.
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Zoom replaced with KHCONF+ app for meetings?
by joey jojo injust heard about khconf+ app replacing zoom for hybrid meetings at kngdom halls.
did a quick search here and didnt find any posts about it.
have i missed something?.
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enoughisenough
this is interesting...( big brother will be watching them ) I wonder if the congregations have to pay for the service. When I used to use the phone to listen to meeting, I had to have a pin number given by congregation...This system will likely have a pin number so I think this would also be the case.
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The Future
by no-zombie indo you want to see into the future?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyi3h7beea.
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enoughisenough
I rather liked the song...it sure beat the song that praised the anointed.
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are men more compliant than women
by enoughisenough ini watched a video once of men being trained ...it was a study.
they had the men doing the most rediculous things-can't remember quite what now.
so between that video, the letter to elders to keep their mouths shut about the koolaid, and to go along with the csa protocol, and what i will call insurance fraud by the jw, and who knows what other things the men in positions in the org go along with-these things prompt the question.
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enoughisenough
responding to Vidiot and DesirousofChange. V- you are so correct about getting rid of the non compliant- you can see that in the veiled threat in the letter where the elders were told to keep their mouth shut. But that went for women as well who dared speak against the GB pushing of "koolaid'. DoC- "anything they are asked to do"-reminded me of a funny occurrance: One elder with the then rbc had a lacky! This lacky wanted in the good graces of big fish elder. So while at a hall build, another who was observing how lacky was the brute labor for the big fish, told the lacky he bet if big fish told him to go jump off clift he would do it. Lacky responded: not again.
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are men more compliant than women
by enoughisenough ini watched a video once of men being trained ...it was a study.
they had the men doing the most rediculous things-can't remember quite what now.
so between that video, the letter to elders to keep their mouths shut about the koolaid, and to go along with the csa protocol, and what i will call insurance fraud by the jw, and who knows what other things the men in positions in the org go along with-these things prompt the question.
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enoughisenough
I watched a video once of men being trained ...it was a study. They had the men doing the most rediculous things-can't remember quite what now. So between that video, the letter to elders to keep their mouths shut about the koolaid, and to go along with the CSA protocol, and what I will call insurance fraud by the JW, and who knows what other things the men in positions in the org go along with-these things prompt the question. I wonder if women would have been as pliable as men who want to be big fish in a small pond. Maybe there is no real answer to that...so the next question is why would Men put up with going against their grain-surely it riled some to know they were being told to keep there mouth shut by the implied threat of df. Then I was thinking of the men who lied to the Australian royal commission. Why were they so compliant as to lie for the org? So I am rambling.....So I questioned google as to which gender was more compliant, and it is women...which makes sense as they have been brow beaten for like ever...Which makes me wonder why a self supporting, thinking man would be so willing to comply with things that are clearly wrong.
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Depression & Isolation
by TxNVSue2023 ini've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.
i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).
i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
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enoughisenough
here is a video about how the JW know the harm of depression and isolation...she did a good job of researching what the JW know and yet how callous they are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUcEbC6ayw&t=613s ( if that link doesn't work, it is youtube Stef wakes up : JWs Admits Shunning can Kill
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shunning the congregation
by enoughisenough ini was watching a youtube by jerome about religious freedom part 2. it was so disgusting to see the two jw testifying that instead of the congregation shunning those who disassociate, it is the person who disassociates that is choosing to shun the congregation.
the commissioners kept asking why someone who had been sexually abused had to be shunned if they disassociated ....jdubs talked in circles and never answered the question.
so glad i woke up and got out ...to support the org is a reproach to anything decent..
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enoughisenough
I was watching a youtube by Jerome about religious freedom part 2. It was so disgusting to see the two JW testifying that instead of the congregation shunning those who disassociate, it is the person who disassociates that is choosing to shun the congregation. The commissioners kept asking why someone who had been sexually abused had to be shunned if they disassociated ....Jdubs talked in circles and never answered the question. So Glad I woke up and got out ...to support the org is a reproach to anything decent.
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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???
by Witness 007 in1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
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enoughisenough
they are never wrong...it God who gives them the info that gets it wrong...they tell you they share what God gives when he gives it.
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want to show support to a one time member
by enoughisenough ini put this under beliefs, doctrine, practices but it could well fit under coverups, i think.
anyway fyi and if you are interested, a one time member here , easyprompt now has a youtube channel :easyprompt_fragrantaddendum exposing wt...i have watched a couple of them, and they are well put together..
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enoughisenough
This video is rather lengthy...but is interesting and a lot of research went into it. I found it interesting the "brother" pointed out the destroying of some documents was so legal opponets couldn't use them against the organization. If everything is legal and above board, why would you be concerned with legal opponets? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgVv_BdEg54