anyone have any anecdotal reports of individual congregation finances since the stealth takeover by the wt of their checking accounts?.
are donations up?
can they pay their bills?.
Blonde. Posted but just what is read; beginning balance, monies spent (no breakdown), ending balance.
No idea what electric, heat, water, money sent off to mom, etc. is.
No. The congregations are directed to post the Page 1 of the Accounts report which includes the breakdown of all receipts and all individual disbursements. The congregation members can see where the money is going.
any fond memories or funny stories relating to the old book study arrangement?.
i remember a time when a new sister turned up with very smart jacket and shirt.
yet she was wearing trousers and when questioned by everyone she said "blimey, i think geoff (her husband) is wearing my skirt!".
As a young boy, I enjoyed the Book Study meetings - mostly because I had the time and the circumstances to attend.
Now as a working professional, I can understand what a pain that would have been to attend, and am happy that this additional meeting was eliminated.
i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
My wife and women in the congregation are quite relieved. It was frustrating to see my wife prance around the hall with the microphone during the 1-hr Watchtower study, while perfectly fit men were warming their seats. In fact, its demeaning to use women for these mundane tasks that can be easily done by men and boys.
Last year during a CSA case in my congregation, my wife was asked to be there with the victim lady during all the sessions that elders had. Now thats a good way to use a woman in the congregation.
this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
He is a frightening being, when we recognize that his actions are who he is.
Yes, the NT makes it clear too:
Hebrews 10:31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Many people are drawn to this part of being submissive to a God who has a monstrous side and a loving side. My mother who was a victim of domestic violence by our father became a JW due to this frightening aspect of Jehovah - a God who exacts justice and revenge. Quick to smash and kill people in the book of Judges and then a merciful side in the Book of Ruth. She faced and endured my Dad's drunken wrath due to her devotion. We kids saw her literally praying and crying and then soothing herself to sleep while talking to her God.
just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
Notice how it’s not a personal decision about whether or not the person will continue to associate, but the ‘decision’ is to not associate.
But isn't that what Paul says: "keep this one marked and stop associating with him". There is no question of deciding whether to associate or not. Just that rather than enforced by elders, this will be an individual's personal decision to mark him, which he cannot enforce on anyone else.
These aren’t reforms…
Yes, these are just change of terminologies to match the terms mentioned in the Bible. The term disfellowship was never there in the Bible, and thus for outsiders shunning looked like a practice
which was not Bible-based. Now in courts you can just quote the scripture and tell that this practice of removing wrongdoers is directly mentioned in the Bible.
since 1931, they have called themselves jehovah’s witnesses.
founded in 1879 by charles taze russell (1852-1916).
jw’s publisher is the watchtower bible and tract society, and their publications include "the watchtower" and "awake!
The only lengthy posts over here I ever enjoyed reading were of Leolia's. I even took notes while reading them and kept my Bible open as she skillfully went from one scripture to another analysing them with proper research and backed-up evidence.
I can show you all the evidence in real life situations.
Thanks DOC, I know. I have 2 cousins who are disfellowshipped.
I am simply asking if the WT asks parents to kick their minors out of the house when they are disfellowshipped.
Again, minors. Not adult children.
Are you serious... we all know that this is standard procedure, who are you trying to fool? Go and boil you buttocks,
I won't drop to your level of language usage. Read my question again. I am talking about WT encouraging parents to ask their minor children to leave the house once they are disfellowshipped. Is that the standard procedure?
But, I doubt he would agree that he fought in 3 wars to allow JW parents kick their questioning teenagers out the house on the street and shun them.
Can you show references from JW literature where parents are encouraged to throw disfellowhipped minors/teenagers out of their house?
holy nativity batman!
on jw broadcasting.
final song for this year's convention.
Yes, it was a surprise to many JW's, who felt the song titled "Good News!" would be about the good news of the paradise earth, but its based on good news that the angels gave to the shepherds about the messiah being born. and its one song where the name Jehovah doesn't appear. Just a shortened version - Jah. These are the lyrics:
Good News
“Glory in the heights above”—
Good news for all men—
When God’s Son arrived in Bethlehem.
Hope for those who mourn,
A Savior has been born!
(CHORUS)
Good news, this good news—
Joy for all mankind—
Praise Jah for his light!
Good news, this good news—
Preach with all your might.
Good news, Christ is born—
The way, the truth, the life.
