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  A sister I knew has passed away: I may go to the funeral

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  a sister that i knew has passed away recently.

  we weren't friends, but back in the days, she, and her family, were among the people i would always talk to at the hall and assemblies.

  she was the type of sister that was kind and probably had more love to share than most people i know.

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  Darryl

  If it was me which it's not but if it was i would have just stopped by the funeral home to view the body for a few and that would be it. She's not going to know if I came or not and in my opinion the funeral is for the living. You are giving your support to the family and close friends, you listen to some nice reflections perhaps some funny stories. Of course you don't have all that at a JW funeral excuse me memorial service. In my mind it's just another meeting with a boring talk dull songs and a bunch of uptight men and women there who will probably give you the cold shoulder. I can't imagine all the bad memories walking into a KH today would conjure up. But as you said it's your decision and you made it Hope all goes well.
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  Disfellowshipping Question

  by Elizabeth Thompson in

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  i have been a baptized witness for about 30 years.

  from the time i was a kid.

  i've been the only one in my family who is baptized until 15 years later when my mother got baptized.

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  Darryl

  I am with problemaddict on this one. The elders apparently know nothing about your husband he must be from somewhere else and nobody knows him. But you said you 2 were in love before he got disfellowshipped??? I am confused as well. But of course even talking to a df'd person much less marrying him is grounds for you being disfellowshipped. How good standing people deal with df'd people in the eyes of the WT society is all about loyalty. Who are you going to be loyal to, who's side are you on, what choice will you make. You've made your choice and for that you will have to pay if they ever find out. What really confuses me is the apparent fact that no one has turned you in. Does anyone know you are married? And to whom? The gossip mill must have really slowed down since I was in witnesses used to live for opportunities to turn others in for wrongdoing. I am sure there are a few in your cong who know this young man and the fact that he's df'd they probably know every df'd person in your area yet no one has spilled the beans. I know no one has because you would have a meeting scheduled if they did. Stay under the radar as long as you can is my advice
  
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  I'm disfellowshipped BUT working my way back

  by Want to serve in

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  i figured i would try this out.

  i'm currently disfellowshiped but working my way back.

  i was wondering if i am the only one?

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  Darryl

  That's very hard to answer. Just what are your beliefs exactly? Are you still holding on to the belief that it is the truth, your going to live forever in paradise, the Governing Body is God's representatives here on earth, the Elders are looking after your very soul, you need to get back out there and knock on those doors as soon as possible, give talks, comment at the Watchtower Study the whole 9, this is just a temporary setback in your endurance to the end, millions now living will never die??? Did I miss anything?

  Anyway if that is your belief you are definitely on the wrong site to get back into the society's good graces. If you want to just get back in so that you can interact with family and friends and then just fade away you are not alone here however finding a husband who is in the same boat as you might be a challenge. I happen to be AA df'd and single and do I miss a normal relationship with my mother,sister, nieces and nephews? Sure. Will I ever subject myself to another judicial tribunal for as long as I live? Hell no. Will I ever step foot into another KH? Hell no. Do I believe all the stuff I rattled off in the first paragraph? Hell no.

  There's also this. If you are determined to get back on track and walk the straight and narrow-I don't know how it is now-but when I was in the "sisters" used to always lament that there were a shortage of "brothers" who were marriage material. Even the pure as the wind driven snow virgins are not finding suitable mates. Now's there's you who has a past. I know it's unfair but that's how these self righteous pricks think. Anyway you have a past and despite the fact that they belong to the "most loving organization on earth" "spiritual paradise" all that you will have a lot of people judging you. I can't tell you how to live your life if that's what you want to subject yourself to that's up to you. You've been in the org you know how these things work. On the other hand of course if you are convinced it is the truth than you have to do what you have to do. Good Luck to you either way
  
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  Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey

  by JW_Rogue in

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  i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.

  even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".

  it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!

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  Darryl

  So what jumped out at me watching this video was all during my childhood I had a morbid fear of the Great

  you know no food no water turture all the stuff that they told us about. And it's pathetic that I still remember

  this passage things will be so bad that unless the days were cut short noone will survive. Worse than

  anything the world has seen before or since. But in the very beginning it seems like a normal JW video

  a bunch of folks of different ages and ethnic backrounds getting together telling experiences about

  how they almost messed up and found themselves on the outside looking in.

  Except for a few windows breaking and some yelling everything seems to be fine. Then someone makes

  the announcement "we are in the great tribulation" just so that everyone is clear on that fact.

  Several people stop by with the super secret door knock but not one person brings food or water or

  batteries or anything. Everyone looks very comfortable and well fed. The elder is still wearing a tie like he's

  conducting a book study or something. Everyone who stops by says "it's pretty bad out there" but they look

  well fed, neat and clean not out of breath and didn't seem like they had any trouble getting to the secret

  hideout. And the kids look very happy and not very frightened at all. Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen
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  Disagreement with Mom

  by Darryl in

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  although df'd for almost 20 years my very much still a jw mother and i would have a discussion about my return to the org .

  from time to time.

  that ended when i revealed myself to be an apostate.

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  Darryl

  Although df'd for almost 20 years my very much still a jw mother and I would have a discussion about my return to the org

  from time to time. That ended when I revealed myself to be an apostate. How did I do that? We were having a discussion

  about pedophiles in the organization. I was questioning why in most cases the authorities are not contacted and the rank

  and file witnesses are not aware of the circumstances and the fact that there is a pedophile in their ranks. My brother in

  law is an elder and at the time had a 15-16 year old daughter. My words to my mom were something to this effect you

  know good and well that if Harold was on a judicial committee judging a child molester and the decision is made not to

  make the information public, he would guarandamntee that his daughter would not ever be in a situation where she

  could be sexually abused. If the man had a daughter and she was having a sleep over my niece would definitely not

  be going. He would protect her at all costs however he would not give the rest of the congregation the same

  opportunity to protect their daughters. She tried to argue that it was not the case but after a while she gave up because

  she knew I was 100% right
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  "The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

  by Poztate in

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  2. beliefs

  in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

  (paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

  i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

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  Darryl

  I remember living my entire childhood life (5-15 yrs old give or take) in morbid fear. Fear of the Great Tribulation

  fear of the Elders, fear of demons possessing a toy or coming through the TV because I wanted to watch

  bewitched or the smurfs or I dream of Jeannie, fear of my friends spotting me walking down the street holding a

  briefcase peddling magazines, fear of some goody two shoes witness in my school telling on me because I walked

  a girl to class, fear of getting destroyed at the big A because no matter how hard I tried the bs was never ever

  in my heart I really resented my mother for being talking into such a ridiculous religion. Anyway what were

  you talking about?? That's right the bunkers just more of the same fear mongering
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  Cart Witnessing

  by Darryl in

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  ok i have been out awhile-almost 20 years can someone please explain this cart business to me.

  i guess it's street .

  witnessing correct?

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  Darryl

  Ok I have been out awhile-almost 20 years can someone please explain this cart business to me. I guess it's street

  witnessing correct? I remember (mostly pioneers) would stand on the street corner holding a couple of magazines

  talking to one another more so than approaching people. Is this a new wrinkle? Wouldn't they be kind of in the way on

  some of the busier streets? Do you have to obtain them from on high (NY) or are you allowed some leeway on the type

  of display you want to have or do they tell you exactly how to set it up. Do they charge you for those things I'm just

  curious that's all
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  Anybody remember those brothers that would harass, and hound the elders into making them, finally, appoint him as an elder himself?

  by Dunedain in

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  lol, for some reason, i was thinking back to all the many "characters" that were often so prevalent in kingdom halls back in the day.

  they are, i am sure, still there now, but fortunately i haven't been in a kh for like 20 years.. anyway, i remembered this one brother, who was dying to be made an elder.

  he could not believe he wasn't an elder yet, after sooo many years.

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  Darryl

  That's one thing I never desired in any way whatsoever. I was an MS when I started my fade and eventual ouster. I hated going to the meetings I was required to go to so the thought of more meetings, more responsibilities, shepherding calls, counseling married couples while my own marriage was on the rocks, more parts to prepare for no thanks. I was appointed along with another couple of guys we were the up and comers about to take the next step together but I took a step down instead of up.
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

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  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  Darryl

  I was in high school in the mid 80's and I remember vividly the teaching about this generation the one which were alive in 1914 would by no means pass away. I don't know if it's been mentioned here but does anyone remember the added kicker to that teaching? Not only the ones who were alive but you actually had to be old enough to know what was going on in the world. There was a lot of speculation as to exactly how old that would be but many people thought anywhere from 7-10 and the society certainly didn't discourage that thinking. So the generation born between 1904 and 1907 or 112 years ago apparently is still going strong. Oh wait they never said that that's right
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  WT Resurrection Hope Absolutely Ridiculous As Illustrated In Their Publications

  by JW_Rogue in

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  saw this while browsing through the good news brochure:.

  is it any wonder people aren't listening to jws anymore?

  what an absolutely delusional scene!

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  Darryl

  How many witnesses are there in China? How many of those are going to make it through? Of course we all know

  everyone who's currently a witness is not going to make it. I mean one month of inactivity say you miss 3 weeks of

  meetings in a row, the big A comes during that time you're a goner. Anyway how many people have died in that

  country over the years? Hundreds of millions? Over a billion? It's going to be quite a task for the 50,000 or so (if

  that...I really don't have any idea but I'm thinking it's not that many) to witness to all those people.

  Maybe Jehovah will allow the internet to stay intact in order to reach and teach all the resurrected ones.

  Perhaps there will still be electricity and televisions...not 70 inch plasmas of course don't want the "friends" to be

  too materialistic but maybe small TV's for the sole purpose of explaining rules and regulations and setting up a

  mandatory meeting scheddule