Posts by NotFormer

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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

by Starlight.vee in

like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

NotFormer

To a certain extent that happened to Armstrong's lot after he died. Unfortunately for the JWs the WT is not a single weirdo directing it any more. It's a large amorphous monstrosity that has been designed to outlast the death of any individual. Which is totally paradoxical, when you think about it. Millions then living were supposed to be alive under the new system and the current arrangement would be obsolete.

They'll not be voluntarily dispersing any time; the system is too entrenched. If it collapses, it'll be due to external pressure.

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"Slave" is confused about the start of judgment!

by BoogerMan in

(1 peter 4:17) "...it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of god.".

w04 3/1 p. 16 par.

15 - "....christ jesus...in 1918, he came to god’s spiritual temple and fulfilled peter’s words: “it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of god.” (1peter 4:17).

NotFormer

Nice catch. What date is that last entry (and what is "bw")?

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Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?

by Ron.W. in

awake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.

somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.

anyone remember it?.

NotFormer

I looked up the pencil one. It looks strongly influenced by, if not outright plagiarised from, I, Pencil, an essay by Leonard Reed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Pencil

Published the same year as the calculator article. Use a pencil to total up your field service hours, Plebs! 🙄

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2024--Become a Circuit Overseer in Your Mid-to-Late 20's!

by Atlantis in

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friends

become a circuit overseer in your mid to late 20's.

you would have had to qualify as an elder previously.

this would mean the male would have had to have been an elder in his early 20's.

NotFormer

From "Elders" to "Youngsters". 🙄

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Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?

by Ron.W. in

awake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.

somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.

anyone remember it?.

NotFormer

Is a calculator in your pocket going to lead to unclean thoughts?:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4547398681493504/going-say-word

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Not going to say a word

by berrygerry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-0p-5x2g4w.

NotFormer

Okay, this is an old post, but brought BTTT because of similar discussions.

"This video would have had a greater impact if the idiot who presented it had kept his mouth shut and kept his face off of the video ."

At first I would have agreed with this. But as the talking head with the sexually provocative red tie and hanky* started talking about showering together and sitting in each other's laps and fondling, I found my facial expressions echoing those of the commentator, and his comments sounding very much like my thoughts. I am horrified that this was genuinely put out by the JWs in all seriousness, and not a gigantic pisstake by their detractors!

Was this released for mass consumption? Was it more for Bethelites? If so, why every last Bethelite didn't quit on the spot after seeing this crap is a complete and utter mystery to me.

I suppose it's a case of "conditioning takes time".

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_dress_effect#:~:text=The%20red%20dress%20effect%2C%20which,in%20comparison%20to%20other%20colors.

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Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?

by Ron.W. in

awake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.

somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.

anyone remember it?.

NotFormer

I wonder if the Awake! article's writer preferred using those booklets they used to issue in high school that contained logarithmic and trigonometric tables. A few years later, I was using a cheap Casio scientific calculator instead. Within a few years of that article, a calculator went from "expensive" and "toy" to useful and cheap.

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Celebrities Who Hate Jw's?

by Ron.W. in

do you recall any?.

i was told that john denver hated jw's with a vengeance - any truth in that?.

also, annie lennox - i was told before a concert she asked any jw's present to leave?.

NotFormer

According to this thread, John Denver is one of those credited with demanding that all JWs leave:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5663510718578688/urban-legends-we-heard-jws

Here's a Snopes article:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ordered-away/

Van Morrison's Kingdom Hall song doesn't sound like any Kingdom Hall that exists in this iteration of reality.

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New instructions on not using sisters to manage KH computer ?

by fifth.column in

since covid in france, especially in the countryside with lack of brothers, it was quite common that some sisters were using the computer at the back of the kingdom hall to manage zoom session.. i heard a rumor that new instructions, maybe a july letter, stated that this was reserved for male only, even unbaptised publishers, but no sister if there is at least a male available.

that would be a steps back and disappointment for these sisters.

last week i heard at my mom’s house how they were happy that this service was available for them, a proof that the org was moving forward.

NotFormer

"Women are nothing but a hank of hair and bag of bones". Rutherford couldn't even get the quote right. It's from a Kipling poem. "...a rag and a bone and a hank of hair." Interestingly, that quote turns up in a 1936 Popeye cartoon, Hold the Wire, where Bluto is insulting Olive, while pretending to be Popeye. Did Rutherford use it before 1936? It's tempting to think that he sourced his theology from cartoons.

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JW Leaders Do Intentionally Torture Their Members

by FragrantAddendum in

that's one of the reasons they're being shut down.

NotFormer

Look at how easily they capitulated to government edicts recently. The one that made me reel was when they ceased the door to door work*. You know: that distinctive of theirs, that they are the only ones going door to door with Jehovah's lifesaving message. They dropped a century of dogma at the merest whiff of negative attention from a government.

* I'm not saying anything one way or the other about whether or not it was prudent to do so. Just that this is a different WT from the one that happily defied governments and sent its members to jail over a perceived point of doctrine.