new york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
Well of course they are dying out. They don't procreate.
The only reason the JWs are around in great numbers today is because of the "born-ins". A lot of JWs defied the leadership's disdain for spouses and children and reproduced. It's a paradox that always has me scratching my head.
On the Shaker story, surely there must be a few people in this day and age who would be willing to join a blissful rural lifestyle. Brother Arnold and Sister June couldn't be that unpleasant to be around.
perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.
from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?
do they really exist?.
moomanchu, not bad, but that looks like an interpretation of the Edenic paradise, not a post 20th/21st Century paradise. WT artists are free to speculate. They can't help it if the GB themselves haved never explained exactly what people will have, post Armageddon, and what they will be doing with it.
Interesting how the Catholic artist still has the mountains in his vision of paradise. Who was it?
At least he was able to depict a fully nude Adam and Eve, even if he tastefully covered Eve's bottom crack with a peacock's tail (or a bush of some sort; I'm not sure). 🙄
I notice this dilemma comes up in Christian circles where they want to depict Adam and Eve. The WT art department is probably full of artists who would love to depict them naked, as the Bible says, but they are restrained by modern Christian sensibilities. The best they can do is to show them from behind and from the middle of the back upwards, I imagine. That's usually how Jack Chick did it in his comics. And I imagine that the SDAs do it in their literature, as the Plain Truth people would have too.
'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.
'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.
These days, I only use olive and avocado oils (monounsaturated) and beef dripping or butter. I used to deep fry everything in a deep fryer in which the vegetable oil sat for weeks before it was changed. I would also drink two litres of full-sugar coke*. I was very cavalier about my diet. One heart attack and a double bypass later I've totally changed my attitude towards diet. These days I try to eat somewhere in the low-carb/keto/carnivore spectrum. I believe that my health is improving, but just as it took decades of bad eating to get to the point of heart disease, it may take decades to undo. And as a sexagenarian**, I don't have a lot of decades left, while the old age clock is ticking.
*I suppose it's a small blessing that Coke is made from actual sugar (sucrose) here, and not high-fructose corn syrup, but the result was the same.
** For a laugh, watch the Beverly Hillbillies episode "The Clampetts in London". I call it "Granny versus the Sexagenarians".
so now they don’t want defib machines in khalls because it shines a light on the increasing blood clots from the shots that they said were safe.
https://youtu.be/yvvyiuqv3nm.
"Ironically, putting that in writing is more likely to make them subject to a lawsuit in future."
They rarely see the irony or hypocrisy of their stances. In this case, once again, it's breathtaking.
And as usual, they put nothing of themselves into it. Are there people in congregations who have an AED machine who don't know how to use them? Then train them, you morons! You hope that there might be people who know CPR who might help until an ambulance arrive? Here's an idea: why don't you insist that every elder and MS, at least, has a current first aid certificate?
Journeyman's correct: a lawsuit could well point to this letter and ask why there was no-one trained in CPR in XYZ Congregation on the day Brother A died of a heart attack. Actually stating that they are taking away lifesaving devices due to their fear of lawsuits may paradoxically create lawsuits. No congregant would probably sue, but a state or other government that finds out about this might.
This is stupid on so many levels, not least of which is taking away the congregational right to make their own decisions on how to look after their own people.
They probably see this decision as "prudent". I see it as just plain immoral.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
"Plus it will be in Croatian and LE apparently doesn’t speak Croatian."
Seriously? Why would you move to a country and not learn the language?
so now they don’t want defib machines in khalls because it shines a light on the increasing blood clots from the shots that they said were safe.
https://youtu.be/yvvyiuqv3nm.
Dear GB,
Please remove any AED devices from your boardroom and your living and work areas. Don't want any liability issues now, do we?
perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.
from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?
do they really exist?.
St George of England, we Australians love fish and chips as well (shared heritage and all that 🇬🇧🇭🇲). It's always a treat in this household 😋🐟🍟
perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.
from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?
do they really exist?.
The carb load would create a new-system wide outbreak of diabetes. Where are the pictures of JWs in the new system manufacturing Metformin? 🤔
local announcement has even pimis amused.
wanting rooms for some event or refugees-not clear.
private room with private bath.
3rdgen, did they blast "the World" as being evil, while relying on the generosity of said worldly ones? 🙄
I wonder how many JWs got lectured by their worldly benefactors as the price of that "free" accommodation? If not, I can't imagine a JW being a gracious guest and refraining from doing the lecturing themselves. Especially in Knorr's time.
8/20/24 "the charlotte (nc) observer".
questions about demons, jehovah’s witnesses in charlotte murder trial.
what do you think about demonic possessions?
"Everything is proof of God’s favor!
"Even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!!!"
Especially the stuff that contradicts the other stuff! - Elim Garak, future GB member
