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  Remember they said this was the last of the FB and the helpers would have to take over to lead the flock through the great GT?!

  by nowwhat? in

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  that aged well lol.

  since then 4 younger gb members appointed.

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  NotFormer

  Let's remember how we "know" that the FDS was appointed in 1919: a criminal thug who incited riots was released from prison.
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  So much for going after religion anytime soon

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/k4skyvqofuq?feature=shared.

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  NotFormer

  Duran, Is some new light incoming that may allow the GB to have a seat at the President's table?

  It would be amusing, not only to see a GB member "performing obeisance" to the secular leader of the world, but watching them trying to act chummy with leaders from other religions.
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  144,000 + 1 kings

  by moomanchu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?

  the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.

  that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.

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  NotFormer

  Even if Rutherford would be disfellowshipped were he to be resurrected today, he's still foundational. The JW "church" is built upon the Rutherfordian rock.

  My thought is that they will eventually try to make the 144,000* "go away" and that only the GB and those closest to them will be considered to be annointed and the FDS. And the Memorial will be further bastardised to the point that it will be a live broadcast to the world's Kingdom Halls of the GB partaking, to the exclusion of all others.

  Not a prediction, just a thought. They've uncoupled the 144,000 and the FDS. The above scenario might make a logical follow through.

  * Rutherford's problem child.
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  What's a Good Question to Ask at the Door?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws haven't been to my door for a while, but i don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*.

  (i saw easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄).

  what's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?.

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  NotFormer

  The JWs haven't been to my door for a while, but I don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*. (I saw Easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "Memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄)

  What's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?

  * They did turn up a few times last year
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  NotFormer

  Ding, WT condemnation of false religion and wolves in sheep's clothing, from the outside looking in, seems like one hundred percent 💯 projection and zero percent self awareness.
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  CSA Victom Speaks Out

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i happened to come across this video at the beginning of the week.

  you feel so sorry for this poor woman who experienced csa and then the hardheartedness of the elders (what's new there) when she needed genuine love and help.. https://fb.watch/j1qacgxphi/.

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  NotFormer

  Copyright claim by Steven Unthank. JW OP was probably using his material w/o permission
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  The Waters of Babylon Are Drying Up (Now in Denmark)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the drying up of babylon's waters is a profound biblical motif that illustrates the certainty of divine judgment against those who oppose god.

  looks like denmark is starting to hear the outcry of wt victims.

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  NotFormer

  What are the accusations by Ekstra Bladet and what are the reasons for an arm of government to launch an investigation? The letter claims false accusations but doesn't say what they are.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses the Most Persecuted Christians on Earth?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/ogxeebmjgyq?si=yowzsbtvmjlzdakd.

  https://www.opendoors.org/en-us/persecution/countries/.

  the 2024 open doors world watch list for the most persecuted christans is out, spotlighting the top countries where christians face brutal persecution for their faith.

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  NotFormer

  Rutherford harrassed the other governments as well. Although he died in 1942, his policies of making the WT a pain in the arse wherever it was continued. So much so that they were the only religion to be banned by the Australian government. That happened in 1943.

  I'm surprised Australian JWs don't harp on that fact. I've never heard about it from them. I only found out about it on here.
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  JWs and Christmas

  by Rnadomchris83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been lurking around here for years.

  i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.

  my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.

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  NotFormer

  "Anyway, her husband came over for the weekly visit last night. She stated that on (JW) TikTok there are talks of them allowing people to celebrate Christmas..."

  Suddenly, the possibility that the WT may allow such things makes sense! It allows people like your in-laws to invite estranged or distant family to a family gathering where they can take the hold of the narrative. That makes sense in the broader world, but in America and Canada, Thanksgiving would be the appropriate holiday to commandeer. Bethel could provide the appropriate "discussion" topics at the table and an appropriate form of prayer* before the meal.

  * Not Grace; they don't believe in grace 😉
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  2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

  this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

  but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

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  NotFormer

  blondie, I was scratching my head about their estimate of how long Noah took to build the Ark when I read that article in the 90s. I knew about the 120 years and that they claim to be the new ark and saw that they could claim the new ark could take 120 years to get everyone in, thus giving themselves a new date of 2034.

  They never did though. Perhaps even they got sick of date setting.