Posts by NotFormer

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Reddit thread: ‘This Cult is Dying and it Brings Me Joy’
by LongHairGal in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this is an excellent thread to read that i saw yesterday and the poster hits the nail on the head and tells it so well.

he is really knocking pimi witnesses and has a lot of well deserved criticisms about them.. he says he hopes at this point that they never wake up….

i am inclined to feel the same.
NotFormer

Even if we never see its eventual demise, we've actually seen it in a form. Its founders would not recognise it today, and to a certain extent it refuses to recognise them. How often do they reverently refer to Rutherford? It's changed so much that it is unrecognisable, even from LHG's time in. So in a certain sense, it actually IS dead.
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Revising History
by no-zombie in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while i'm aware of wt books being revised without noting the differences on newer editions (the truth book is a classic example of this) ... is there evidence of the writing committee revising the online versions of wt articles, as compared to the printed editions?.

if there is a previous thread on this topic, just link it ... as these is no need to reinvent the wheel.. thanks.
NotFormer

"I heard two elders talking about 'present truth' and 'current truth'"
Do they ever talk about absolute truth? For people who believe that there is something called "The Truth", they've got a pretty fluid attitude towards the subject.
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JW BORG does not have clergy-laity like Christendom! 😄
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
(because they told us so in a wt!.

w71 6/1 p. 330 par.

10 - "another reason why many feel there is no place for them in the service of god is due to the clergy-laity distinction that is fostered in the churches.
NotFormer

There's a precedent for deacon, not M. S. You said it yourself.
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Shunning--newest directive
by stan livedeath in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so just what is the latest directive on shunning?.

asking for a family member.
NotFormer

"Disfellowshipping"". They called it scriptural. But it's nowhere found in the bible. "" That word ""disfellowship"" has been removed from JWBORG's vocabulary in light of what happened in Norway recently."
You got me thinking. Did the WT coin the term themselves? Just as they couldn't use normal church terminology like "pulpit", "bulletin board" and "communion", they couldn't very well use "ex-communicate".
According to the OED, the first recorded occurrence of the word is in the Troy (N.Y.) Watchman newspaper, in 1831. That in itself is interesting. The Watchman seems to have been an anti masonic publication. I wonder if further digging would find any familial relationship or line of descent between the Watchman and the Watchtower. Not very likely, but I find it very interesting, nonetheless.
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JW BORG does not have clergy-laity like Christendom! 😄
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
(because they told us so in a wt!.

w71 6/1 p. 330 par.

10 - "another reason why many feel there is no place for them in the service of god is due to the clergy-laity distinction that is fostered in the churches.
NotFormer

There's no precedent for MS, CO, DO, Pioneer, etc. and no precedent for counting hours, but you'll find that all in the customs and practices, past and present, of JWs.
The arrogance and hypocrisy of the powers that be at Bethel is breathtaking.
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JW BORG does not have clergy-laity like Christendom! 😄
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
(because they told us so in a wt!.

w71 6/1 p. 330 par.

10 - "another reason why many feel there is no place for them in the service of god is due to the clergy-laity distinction that is fostered in the churches.
NotFormer

"...many feel there is no place for them in the service of God ...due to the clergy-laity distinction that is fostered in the churches."
Conversely, I never felt that there was place for me in the service of their god*, because I'm not a door to door salesman, by trade or by nature, and that was the only role they ever offered me.
* Jehovah, the 13th century scribal error.
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You need to marry a ministerial Servant!
by John Aquila in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a single sister in her 40s and her two single daughters were visiting my mom.

i would say her daughters are in their early 20s.

my mom got sleepy and we put her to bed but the three sisters stayed to finish their drinks..
NotFormer

"Oh yes, young sisters, find a Ministerial Servant with a shit job, no ambition, and no sense of decency or loyalty, and marry him. What could possibly be better in Jehovah Organization?"
WT, keeping the standards high, ever since the Rutherford era. 🙄
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Norway didn't fall for it
by Jalisco in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
la norvegia non è caduta nella trappola della torre di guardia di agosto.. https://files.accessjw.org/s/sdzfgcgk4bi48jb.
NotFormer

"I've been wondering..
"There will be more strange WT studies coming up in the next few months. Strange to the PIMIs that is."
Time to keep an eye on the Watchtower issues.
Watchtower Watchers: Assemble!! 🦸🧟🧙🧝🕵️
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Norway didn't fall for it
by Jalisco in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
la norvegia non è caduta nella trappola della torre di guardia di agosto.. https://files.accessjw.org/s/sdzfgcgk4bi48jb.
NotFormer

"But my tie matches your flag?!?!?
"Kiss the ass lest Norway be angry and the funds perish in the way!"
NGL, I like the tie. It has the "old school tie" feel to it.
All those years of reading the Awake! has given him the right to wear a tie equivalent to his equivalent college education. 🙄🤮
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Did Tony Morris Get Sideways with His Bros.?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
interesting video connects the dots.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ff1ibybfe4&t=205s&pp=2ahnazacaq%3d%3d.
NotFormer

I still find it amusing* and ironic that we are using their new buzz word "removed" to refer to Tony's status.
* I may be old, but I never made any claims about attaining maturity 🙄