my relationships in the org were completely disfunctional. its hard to have a positive physical relationship because its drilled in your head that sex is bad sex is bad sex is bad and then poof...u get married for the wrong reason to one of the available single men in ur area who has the right "spiritual" qualifications and its ok. sad thing is the sex wears off (if ever was actually any good) and u r left with someone u barely know and dont even like. then ur stuck. there r no other options. my bf now is amazing and wonderful and he is an athiest. i love him for who he is and not because he fits the jw mould.
joyfulfader
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Relationships & JW's
by Kool Jo ingood day:.
just a query....how did growing up a jw impact your views of relationships, in terms of love/marriage?.
were you too gullible, naive?.
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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joyfulfader
its not a hard bound book. its a used paperback but it has a hand written note
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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joyfulfader
really? i wonder why this one is signed. pretty cool.
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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joyfulfader
i just got my hard copy of COC because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover. do all copies have this?
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Birthdays & Christmas
by Rattigan350 inwhat is the deal with people criticizing jws because they don't celebrate birthdays or christmas?.
it is as if when someone is born, from a baby, to a child, teen, adult; that one has a responsiblity to celebrate christmas (and i thought it was a free country); and others have a responsiblity to celebrate others' anniversary of one's birth.. i don't get the criticisms as if celebrating either is a great thing and the not celebrating is a bad thing.. data on star trek said that he does not understand why people celebrate their birthdays - a day one can not possibly remember.. what are you actually celebrating?
the fact that you made it another year?
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joyfulfader
You have obviously not had child diagnosed with a terminal illness so that each passing year is a celebration of an immense milestone. There are some people who can't take those birthdays for granted.
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Going to 9:30 am meeting. Oh Joy...NOT! Cliques anyone??
by OneStepOut93 inyep.
curling my lashes and putting on pant hose to be"modest" and ready for all the dribble that's going to be said.
*sigh* plus i have to deal with mary-sue or little miss perfect as i call her.
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joyfulfader
my former hall was the worst. certain families ONLY associated with their own families or a select other few. the gossip was heinous and perpetuated by the clique who were the elder/pioneer families with money. then there were the fundamentalist jw's who were also family that were in a usually silent but perceptible feud with the gossipy, wealthier clique. made for an uncomfortable situation for many when they were at odds. was part of the reason i left. watching them made me physically ill. cliques r so prevalent and so divisive.
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As a JW, how did you feel about shunning?
by jwfacts ini am interested in the answers for a new poll.
also, feel free to suggest other options, wording etc.agreed in full with the watchtower guidelinesagreed with shunning in general, but not for familywas stumbled by this practice but shunned as instructeddid not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people .
for me personally, i did not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people, even whilst at bethel.
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Sadly i fell into the category of following the guidelines of shunning to a T. I even spent a total of 4 yrs df'd. shunned by my father (but not my mother). I look back in disgust at my behavior. i was Df'd unjustly one time and then again during a catastrophically difficult time in my life when i needed more support than i ever needed in my life. i worked my butt off to come back each time. Thankfully I am out for good...faded successfully so far. I will never again think of myself as better than someone else because a group of ignorant elitists tell me it is so. The GB is a dictatorship carrying out its own version of ethnic cleansing. While they may not actually murder masses of people, they maim and scar them usually forever and make them like refugees in a strange land by casting them out from their own families. abandoning them when they most need support. despicable.
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14 months after printing the "Steve and Selma" article, guess what the Society's latest Awake is about...
by cedars inyou guessed it.... .
http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=201304&output=html&pub=g&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.
cedars.
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joyfulfader
the only scenario that i can see positive is the abused woman separates from her husband (rightfully so), divorces him and fades away never to be heard from again. her ex husband is left unscripturally divorced and unable to remarry. spares any more women of his abuse and frees her of it all. may be unrealistic but would be great if it was an option.
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Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.
by stillstuckcruz inthis is truly terrible.
i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
" in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.
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one of my very best friends lost her 5 year old last fall and we were completely devastated...i was with her and her husband when he passed and i had to BEG the elder husband of the woman my friend is (unfortunately) studying with to just stop by (it was an f***ing meeting night)!!!!! then it was a nightmare for him to get "permission" to give the funeral talk of a child of a bible study. the talk was that exact outline with no warmth or concern. i was sooooo angry that i let them have it. my friend knows i no longer am a jw and loves me and accepts it completely. i am now in the process of helping her escape their clutches. i NEVER want a jw funeral for anyone i love because it is a load of sh*t. i do not curse but this brings out so much anger that i cant help it...
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I just went to the meeting tonight!
by sd-7 ini love it!
out of nowhere, the mrs. tells me that since she has a part tonight and there's nobody to watch the kids, she wants me to come with her to the meeting to watch them while she's on the platform.
i'm actually still supposed to be there, but i went home (5 minutes down the road) for a 'bathroom break'.
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wow. u r a better man than i am...wait a minute...i'm a woman lol
more power to ya. i dont know if i could stand it for even a minute. i work with a jw sister and she was singing one of the kingdom songs. in 5 seconds i thought my brain was going to explode. i literally had to stick my fingers in my ears and hum to drown it out and maintain some semblance of sanity. a meeting would most certainly do me in.