Very interesting story, atrapado. My jw family attend the Spanish Congrgations, and one is a DO in Cali. I like the name you chose for yourself. Looking forward to part 2 of your story.
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atrapado's story parte 1
by atrapado inso it was only my mother, two of my sisters and i that had to move.
you cant really play soccer by yourself.. i turn to the jws for friends but there were no kids my age and kids a few years older than me started to hate me.
i liked the elder saw him as my dad i didnt want to say no.
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A word you need to know: TERGIVERSATION (Watchtower style)
by Terry in.
tergiversation \tuhr-jiv-uhr-say-shuhn\ , noun:.
1. the act of practicing evasion or of being deliberately ambiguous.. web definitions:equivocation: falsification by means of vague or ambiguous language.
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panhandlegirl
I just thought of a sentence I might use with that word. "Give it to me stright. I don't want any of your tergiversation!" It is a cool word.
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Greetings! From an Existent JW!
by Ethos ini'd like extend a greeting to all members of jwn.
i've been a lurking by-stander of this forum for approximately 6 months.
i think this forum's best moments can be attributed to the involvement of actual jw's in doctrinaire discussions and to heated (though not always dialectic) debates.
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panhandlegirl
http://corior.blogspot.com/ I believe this is the link I was referring to. If you find yoursel with a lot of time for reading and research, there are some excellent essays on this site.
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Greetings! From an Existent JW!
by Ethos ini'd like extend a greeting to all members of jwn.
i've been a lurking by-stander of this forum for approximately 6 months.
i think this forum's best moments can be attributed to the involvement of actual jw's in doctrinaire discussions and to heated (though not always dialectic) debates.
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ethos,Welcome to JWN. The discussions should prove interesting. Because you are still in the borg, I will pretend that you are a member of my uber jw family and consider what you believe and why. As Loubelle stated, we have already considered these doctrines thoughly and they have been rejected.I recommend the book "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Jonsson. It's a heavy read but informative. There is also a site, I forgot how to get to it, but others here can direct you there, where you will find some great essays discussing wts doctrine. The only two names of those whose writing may be found there are Farkel and and Alan F, don't recall the last name but it's a long name. I have found that site to be excellent reading.
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I went a little NUTS!
by irondork indid you go a little nuts as you were waking up and making your exit?
i had a few of the symptoms listed in hassan's, combatting cult mind control.
i couldn't pull my thoughts together.
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If you ain't been one, you can't begin to grasp it all.
DOC, that is so true. That's why JWN is so important. We have all been there and understand why we get nuts and how difficult things can get.
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American Elections - From an outsider
by LouBelle ini am not huge into politics but i follow the american elections and kind of keep my finger on it.
i have my own strong views on sa politics.. i just want to applaud you, the american people for going about your elections in a very fair, democratic and peaceful manner.
it certainly came across very polished and well run.
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panhandlegirl
I grew up with images of fire hoses turned on children. De facto segration was alive in the South. Police dogs were turned on peaceful demonstrators. It gives me hope for my issues.
BOTR, I grew up with the same images. I could not believe what I saw on tv. Those were such tumultuous times; from the images of young American men dying in the fields of Vietnam, the assassination of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Medgar Evers, and the killing of the young men in Mississippi and those protestors at Kent State, it was almost too much to absorb. I witnessed these events from the vantage point of a small Texas town. The events were so surreal. When I was moving from Texas to the Southeast coast, my brother and I went through Selma and Birmingham, Alabama. As we went through those those cities, I remarked to my brother:"Do you realize we are in the heart of the battle for civil rights?" I almost wanted to stop and do homage to those brave souls who forced change on the US.I don't think I would want to have lived in any other age. This one has been wrought by so much turmoil, but good things have also been accomplished by some brave souls. I hope things will get better for all of us in the future.
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Asleep in a Wood
by compound complex inso weary i was from a walk in the woods .
that i lay to rest at the foot of an alder tree,.
finding sweet repose on a cool nest of leaves.. .
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CoCo, your writing is intriguing. I like the way you ascribe personification to the air. I love to watch the moon and it's different phases so I enjoyed your use of the moon and stars.
I can picture myself experiencing what you are writing.
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My heart sings ...
by fulltimestudent ini've felt pressured the last 2 days - i'm writing an essay i've titled, traditions in conflict, the persecution of catholics in nineteenth century choson (korea) - (depressing subject, eh?).
the right words have not been flowing easily.
one problem is (i think) that i accumulated too much material.
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Fulltimestudent, What exactly are you studying and what type of degree are you pursuing. Sounds interesting.
When I was in school, I went to see 30 Centuries of Mexician Art. The paintings and scuptures were touring the US. I was overwhelmed with the beauty of the art.
I could not believe how large the painting were. You're right about the wonderful things that humans can accomplish.
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American Elections - From an outsider
by LouBelle ini am not huge into politics but i follow the american elections and kind of keep my finger on it.
i have my own strong views on sa politics.. i just want to applaud you, the american people for going about your elections in a very fair, democratic and peaceful manner.
it certainly came across very polished and well run.
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panhandlegirl
Thank you, LouBelle for the compliment. We are proud to be Americans and of the way we conduct our elections. I did not vote for Obama, but he is our President and we have to support him and hope that he will do the best for all Americans. We agrue and debate but in the end we know we have to stick together for the sake of our country.
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I went a little NUTS!
by irondork indid you go a little nuts as you were waking up and making your exit?
i had a few of the symptoms listed in hassan's, combatting cult mind control.
i couldn't pull my thoughts together.
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Feeling that you're going nuts is new normal after leaving the borg. Even a year or so after I left, on morning I awoke in a cold sweat thinking "What if they are right and they are God's only people!" I had to calm myself down by going over everything I had learned about them. It gets better. It's just difficult leaving something you put your trust into. It's a feeling of "What now?"
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