recovery,.
as requested, a discussion on the great crowd and the identity of the other sheep.. .
first question: where are the great crowd rendering sacred service day and night?.
Bump.
Some good discussion here on a key teaching of the WTS but this is getting less attention than certain other threads that are somewhat less productive.
Londo started with a well laid out question for Recovery. Recovery responded with some references. Londo replied with a review of those references and maintains his initial assessment.
I believe the ball is in Recovery's court now. I'm eager to see some energy put into developing this conversation to see how it unfolds.
Cheers!
WS
what are your favorite urban legends that you heard as a jw?.
here's mine:.
a brother, through his work, was asked to give a speech to the united nations.
I forgot to add that anything ending with the phrase "Years later at a convention I felt a tap on my shoulder....." set my BS radar screaming
what are your favorite urban legends that you heard as a jw?.
here's mine:.
a brother, through his work, was asked to give a speech to the united nations.
The nickname of NZ's boat in the America's Cup yacht race a few years ago was 'Black Magic' (because the boat was black and awesome). The Kiwis defended their title in Auckland and a father bought a merchandising cap for his son with the boat's nickname on it. The next morning the kid was at the breakfast table in tears because during the night the boy had seen the cap moving of its own volition.
"I mean really, brothers and sisters. What did this father expect? The cap had Black Magic written on it!"
recovery,.
as requested, a discussion on the great crowd and the identity of the other sheep.. .
first question: where are the great crowd rendering sacred service day and night?.
Bumpity bump bump....
as has already been mentioned, the december 15th watchtower (study edition) is now online and available for download on this link.. i couldn't help but smile at the concluding comments of the final study article on page 28 where it had this to say:.
"the very concept of foreigner has already lost much of its meaning among jehovahs witnesses, who pay little attention to the nationality of those in their midst.
recently, for example, several of their smaller branch offices were merged to simplify the work of oversight and to improve efficiency in accomplishing the preaching of the good news of the kingdom.
Great work in finding those quotes everyone. I knew there had to be something out there. These guys can't keep track of their own crap.
I checked my notebook from the convention, and in the last talk the speaker said that the recent merges were Jehovah breaking down national boundaries in preparation for the end.
They change their minds more than they change their undies.......
as has already been mentioned, the december 15th watchtower (study edition) is now online and available for download on this link.. i couldn't help but smile at the concluding comments of the final study article on page 28 where it had this to say:.
"the very concept of foreigner has already lost much of its meaning among jehovahs witnesses, who pay little attention to the nationality of those in their midst.
recently, for example, several of their smaller branch offices were merged to simplify the work of oversight and to improve efficiency in accomplishing the preaching of the good news of the kingdom.
I wonder if there is a statement in a past Watchtower that says something along the lines of 'The increase in branches / printing is a sure sign that the end of this system of things is coming' because that would nicely contradict the imminent "Closing down branches and reducing printing is a sure sign that the end of this system is coming' type comments....
hi, where can i find a list of all the occurences in the christian greek scriptures of the new world translation where the word "jehovah" has been inserted (out of the total 237 times) where the bible writer was not quoting or paraphrasing from the hebrew scriptures?.
I have all the books for the meeting loaded on it, plus a couple o' extracirricular ones in case the droning gets to be too much. Tablet on the lap, screen on dim, look at what you want, look up, smile and laugh with the rest of the robots from time to time, repeat. All done very carefully of course. Cautious as as serpent, innocent like a dove...
By the way the list on page 132 of The Tetragrammaton, is pretty much what Yadda Yadda was after I think. Great work ;-)
hi, where can i find a list of all the occurences in the christian greek scriptures of the new world translation where the word "jehovah" has been inserted (out of the total 237 times) where the bible writer was not quoting or paraphrasing from the hebrew scriptures?.
Great link jwfacts, just added that PDF to my list of books I read on my tablet pc during the meetings......Looks interesting from a quick skim.
he joined our side.. does anyone have any connect or hear from him?.
Hello Karter,
Small world eh, especially the JW world! Joe is probably the furtherest back my memory goes, although I do remember a bald guy who used to make lots of jokes, and would make us sing two songs at the end of the assembly. I can never remember his name, does that sound like Hubler? The only other names from back then I can remember on the circuit work are the Ridlings and the Kramers.
Are you from NZ / Aussie?
he joined our side.. does anyone have any connect or hear from him?.
Woah, now there is a blast from the past!
Joe was a CO or maybe DO when I was young. Late eighties, early nineties maybe? Lovely brother, and well liked. I remember hearing years later during one of those 'I wonder what happened to X' conversations that he had 'gone apostate'. Can't offer any more than that sorry.
A more recent defection is Doug Black. Not sure if he became apostate in the common sense of the word, but the rumour was that he got involved in extra-marital shenanigans, got disfellowshipped and was working toward becoming a police lawyer. Great guy, he was sorely missed by us young bros when he went.
