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  Last night my dad tried to commit suicide

  by cruzanheart in

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  i'm still blown away by it.

  when i went out the door this morning to take the kids to school (7:15 a.m.) i turned on my cell phone and there were two messages from his retirement home, both saying that he had fallen at about 4:30 a.m. and was being taken to the hospital.

  i called the hospital and they told me that he said he had taken 18 xanax in an effort to kill himself.

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  Cruz and Family:

  I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this. I know that it is not easy and you are asking yourself why. But if someone doesnt communicate or give you some ideal you cannot read their mind.

  I have made countless posts on suicide. Elder suicide is one of the most overlooked mental health issues. Elder suicide is at an all time high. Due to many illnesses, changes in life etc.; elderly people face so much and some opt to take the option of suicide.

  Here are some places you can ask questions to and even get help. We are hear if you need to talk.

  Xandria

  Edited by - xandria on 20 September 2002 2:34:30
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  why exjws have VEHEMENT disagreements at times

  by Cyn in

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  just a few thoughts..... i noticed that a lady named crystal posted her views.....and many people got upset....i did as well....part of me knows that taking responsibilty for my own life is important... and i have tried but also battle all my life....in fact i called to complain about the mail being late just today...and the supervisor's name is battle...to which i ( with my anaylytical bipolar mind ) reacted.......... i thought ," gee i battled allll my life but is could be taken as battle for youe life"... anyway....my original point was about why ex jws vehemently disagree... i remember when i saw and expereinced abuses in the org..and when i asked "sisters" and " brothers' for validation ( am i right or wrong?????

  ) some would agree then get frighetend and avoid me remember how we were warned against murmuring and how often so as not to appear unloving many people would use inuendoes or roll their eyes or play any number of mind games......( very loving that).

  expressing honestly and openly was , for the most part, not safe so i think that many exjws having been repressed as to free expression are more prone to let it all out... and disagree vehemently......... just a few thoughts.

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  I think when someone is being prodded into taking that inner person out and examine what is in there some don't like what they see or they feel threatened by it. The thought of a person making a point that may not be flattering or opposite of the view that you have of yourself can be shattering. Some get highly enraged and lash out, others down play it and some really take it to heart. I have seen many different types of personalities here online.

  Some, I will admit worry me in how they handle their anger towards others. The PURE rage and violence of their outbursts tell me they are struggling with some serious issues. Even I sometimes get angry at a post. But I step back, cool off, vent a few good choice words, and then come back to it and re-read it with attempted objectivity. If I cannot or have steam still coming out of my ears .. I bounce it off my husband who is a good sounding board at times.

  Discussing it helps bring out what is bothering you about a certain post. Sometimes it hit too close to home and others it just someone's blind stabbing at the dark to make a rise come forth from the reader, and some are really thought provoking. As I say, " words placed together to illicit a prescribed response." Those who rabble rouse just to p/o people are people who have the need for attention. ANY attention even if it is the wrong type. So you let it ride.

  Unless the person is actually harming you .. it is just a plea for "LOOK AT ME". When it is a plea for HELP me then that is when attention is needed.

  Xandria
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  PLEASE READ

  by IMA_PALLED in

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  before my dad went into surgery he asked that i contact the people on this board and let them know how much it ment to him much it ment to him over the past month or so to be able to talk with all of you.. this is one of the few things in his life he could still enjoy.dad wanted to especially thank craig (ona ) for accepting him and apologies for anything he said that might have offended you.. my father was in so much pain over the past seven years ,god must have thought it was time,dad passed a few houres after surgery.. dad asked not to have a service and will be cremated than placed in an urn ( as he said "so he can keep an eye on mom" ) we all loved him deeply and he will be missed.

  i will leave the company email should anyone want to,i will print them out for mom and the family to read.. again thanks to all, our love is with each and every one of you.. matthew mc cune [email protected]

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  Matthew and Family:

  My deepest condolences for your loss. To lose a parent is difficult at most, he sounds like he was a wonderful person.

  Sincerely,

  Xandria
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  NEWSPAPERS - VICKI BOER ABUSE CASE - SEP 17

  by hawkaw in

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  i can't believe no has posted any of this stuff.

  vicki was on cbc in toronto and other parts of ontario again last night.

  she creamed them.

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  Xandria

  Thank you for posting that information.

  Xandria
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  A Silent Ram

  by DakotaRed in

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  this is probably going to be the most difficult thing i have ever written.

  but, since i dont plan on being around [here] much longer, what the hell?

  for some time now, we have discussed and expressed our outrage and horror at child molestation.

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  Dakota:

  Thank you, for finding the deep courage it took to put those thoughts and experiences into writing. The pain and anger of what happened is still seen in those words. But even through that you have found some way of making what happened to be turned into a triumph over it. By your post you are helping others come to terms to it. You made some very vaild and true points, in dispelling the myths of male abuse.

  Men are told to hold it in, to cry is a sign of weakness, that they have to hide their feelings. That is a myth and highly untrue. Any person male or female who victimizes someone is lower than pond scum!!!!

  Xandria
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  Greatest Soccer Photo of All Time

  by SYN in

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  this has to be one of the funniest soccer photos i've ever seen.

  now, don't get me wrong, i love soccer, especially when arsenal are on a roll and showing manchester a few new cat-skinning techniques, but this!

  lol!.

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  Um ... Playing Soccer in front of 10,000 fans exciting. Having your privates shown..to 10,000 fans and 1.2 million watching on TV., plus a photo taken so your mom can frame it. PRICELESS.

  Xandria
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  What's the worst thing you did at the KH?

  by glitter in

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  i went to the 1999 memorial with no underwear on!.

  so what's the worst thing everyone's done on borg property?

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  the 11th commandment.. Thou shalt not pass wind for it, will rend the K.H. into snickers.

  Xandria
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  brutalized toddlers

  by little witch in

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  does anyone remember the advice from from the stage, encouraging mothers to remove babies from the room when they were hungry?.

  how about, wooden spoons to beat toddlers into submission, preferably in front of the congegation, as to set an example in disipline?

  was this just in our hall, or was it from the borg?

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  I would of stood up cheering to see that person leave. It makes me feel good he thought of his child first DeProgram.

  Xandria
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  FATHER PIC 2

  by honestly in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  to notso perfect......what do i have against her?i have known her since childbirth,and once upon a time she was a normal sweet person who loved her parents,then she changed.it started when she met scott i would say.thats when her troubles began after she got married.she started exploiting herself sexually and started makin up the wildest stories about her husband and herself and thats when i realized that she wasnt the same person and i realized what kind of morals she had and she started sayingthings about scott that was when i realized she isnt right.as the yrs went by she just got worse.and now i dont even know her,she has stretched her testomony and much of it is downright lies.i have actual letters from vicky from yrs back that contradict what she is claiming now.. why do i have against her???

  ?she has torn her family apart even cousins and aunts and uncles who can see right thru her.see you guy dont know both sides and you never will because vicky knows shes does enough damage and will come to her senses and her brainwashing by frank mottrill is coming out.you see he is usinh vicky as a pawn to get back at the wts for his own wrongdoing.anyway it will soon be over........i personally will never look or talk to her again,she has been disowned my her realtives,most are not even witnesses so what does that tell you.. for the record many of you may not know this but the lawyer for the wts.

  is not even a witness!

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  Honestly,

  You need to stop coming on to this board and insulting the people here. FIRST of all all PALMER(S) come from the same roots. So that is a truth.. unfortunately all family trees have nuts.. and you are coming across as one. If you have a constructive thing to say then say it. If not SHUT THE HELL UP and take it to private converstation.

  All you have done is made yourself look like a raving lunatic. If you have evidence produce it in Court. Otherwise you are making yourself liable for a lawsuit for slander. All you are doing is strengthing Vicki's Case. By your words and venom to everyone who expresses themselves. It just goes further to prove that there is a seed of truth in what Vicki is saying. IF this is the "loving" care she received when she was reaching out for help.

  Why don't you do us all a favor and let us make up our own minds instead of campaigning aimlessly. The more you open your mouth the more damage you do. To your protestations of innocence on behalf of G. Palmer. I don't think that is the word to use when discribing him at this point. He is far from innocent.. as to be proven innocent in this court of law I seriously doubt it. They may find him non-liable but that is all. Innocence is the freedom of guilt or sin.. and I don't see this issue as a question of innocence. It is a question of being liable for damages done to a child.

  One entry found for innocence. Main Entry: innocence Pronunciation: 'i-n&-s&n(t)s Function: noun Date: 14th century 1 a : freedom from guilt or sin through being unacquainted with evil : BLAMELESSNESS b : CHASTITY c : freedom from legal guilt of a particular crime or offense d (1) : freedom from guile or cunning : SIMPLICITY (2) : lack of worldly experience or sophistication e : lack of knowledge : IGNORANCE <written in entire innocence of the Italian language -- E. R. Bentley> 2 : one that is innocent 3 : BLUET

  As I state and will state again this is for the COURTS to decide. We are intitled to our opinions, for you to continue your tirade against those who express them in the manner you are then you will not be welcome here. No one has to take your abuse. PERIOD. End of story.

  Xandria

  S. Palmer
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  Elder LIES to Downey, California Reporter

  by Brymichmom in

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  dungbeetle and brymichmom delivered a stuffed lamb to the downey, ca kingdom hall at 12116 woodruff avenue today.

  present were a reporter and a photographer from the downey patriot newspaper.

  while we were placing the lamb at the front door, an elder approached us and asked us why we were there.

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  Xandria

  I used to go to Fullerton Union H.S. in 1985.. right next door to the College.

  O God the memories.

  Xandria