Posts by razorMind

"We as Jehovah's Witnesses should strive to be less curious about things around us...how much time do YOU spend reading 'secular' books, novels, etc? Now, how much time do you spend reading the Kingdom publications? Yes, Jehovah's people should squelch/subdue their desire to learn and be curious...blah blah blah..."

After being totally inactive for almost a decade and attending the odd assembly for the sole reason of being able to see my parents, I think this marked the true end of the JW ride for me.

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television evangalists anyone?

by freddi in

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many years after i left the j.w.

's i started watching t.v.

evangalists.

razorMind

I am SO sorry, I've gotten my televangelists mixed up.

CLARENCE McCLENDON is the "pretty boy" who wears the strange costumes and the headset during his sermons. He keeps those sistas in the audience all "HET UP", lol.....

I mistakenly said Creflo Dollar--though he keeps those females "HET UP" as well.

JT, ROFLMAO!!!

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WT goofie phrases.

by Pepper in

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i used to get into trouble for making light of the these phrases that some elders have told me are to be used only gods people.

lol that you all may know maybe:.

"well, brother that is very "commendable," just before the meeting ends the po says to those in attendance "brothers the time left is reduced," i once heard a co say to those seated during one of his talks "well now, we don't want to die at armageddon now do we, well of course not.

razorMind

..."young ones", "unbaptized ones", "elderly ones", "spiritually weak ones"
Not people - ones. That gets on my nerves.

I posted my extreme irritation on this very thing, a long time ago.

"Such WUNZ"

"Erring WUNZ"

I cannot say enough how much this grates my nerves. I am SO glad I am not alone.

Another irritating phrase is "opposer". As in, "I was an OPPOSER", "My husband is an OPPOSER"...

"Male organ" and "birth canal" instead of "penis" and "vagina".

Also, "FLESHLY" or "sisters of the flesh" to describe sisters related by blood and not by "spiritual bonds" or some such crap. AAARRGH!!!

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television evangalists anyone?

by freddi in

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many years after i left the j.w.

's i started watching t.v.

evangalists.

razorMind

I hate to say it, but I watch them mostly for entertainment.

I marvel at Benny Hinn's hairstyle (esp. the back) and the way he sometimes "zaps" the sick people during those healing sessions.

T.D. Jakes can bust out some slick dance moves, that is, when he's not speaking in "tongues".

Creflo Dollar wears interesting costumes (once a maharajah-type getup, complete with fringed sash; I kept waiting for some type of Bible-based drama, but no)...he also brings laptops to the podium and wears headsets. And I always get a kick out of his female audience and how they act towards him.

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Should I go Decorate my old KH? GRIN>

by NaruNaruChan in

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so this morning at around 5am, my girlfriend and i were driving in north fresno and we noticed that there are two huge christmastree like trees in front of the hall, outside of the oh-so-welcoming gates... and so i got to thinking... and... hmm.... should i???

in the words of ts eliot, "do i dare disturb the universe?".

razorMind

Hell yeah!!!

And be sure to use plenty of those big ol' C-9 lights!

(hee hee hee...)

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Physical appearance IN the troof vs. out

by razorMind in

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i just had a question.....a rant is intertwined as well (sorry) .

when i was in the jw's, i noticed so many "new one'z" and "interested one'z" who were nicely dressed people.

many were fairly well-groomed, the women & girls with nice stylish fashion taste.

razorMind

Greetings folks,

This is an update to the situation with my little sister mentioned in my initial post.

My dad kicked them both out of the house since my initial post. They have finally found a place, but now the one car they had has gotten repossessed. Basically, one bad event following the next.

I think the time is ripe for a little "seed-of-doubt" dropping. Just one or two seeds. Both my little sister and her husband have decided to seek professional help. The psychiatrist is extremely worried about her, really worried. She became suicidal after my dad kicked them out, and this isn't the first time.

Anyway, the psychiatrist is going to try to help both of them. Needless to say, my parents are none too happy about this. My mother, who is speeding towards a nervous breakdown herself, doesn't want her to use the medication the doctor has given her.

When the occasion arises that I do have a chance to "sow some seeds", what do I say? I'll probably end up writing a letter, as I can get my thoughts out better that way. What are some good starting points? I really need some help here.....thanks in advance.

P.S. thanks for answering my original post, I really appreciate everyone's thoughts.

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The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

by Princess in

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last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

razorMind

This has got to be the funniest shit I've ever read. YOU ROCK!!!

Sooo, will I soon be hearing a tale through the congregational grapevine about how an evil jack o' lantern appeared at the KH, then uttered, "I don't have to listen to this shit," and walked out on it's own accord? (teehee!!) All from hysterical congregational members who swear they've heard it from a reliable source?

Speaking of Smurf dolls, my sister's been swearing that she will leave a Smurf doll at our KH, and wishes my assistance. I fear this will only strengthen her resolve.....LOL

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jam master jay

by comforter in

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the nameless one heard last night that some rapper name jam master jay died.

i not too crazy about rap.

but the nameless one regret the loss of life.

razorMind

I read that he and another guy were at a recording studio. Jay was shot once in the head and died at the scene; the other guy was shot in the leg. Assailant is unknown and still at large, as far as I know.

He was married and had 3 children. Too too sad.

My sister and I rocked Run DMC tapes in our boombox 24 hours a day back in the 80's, much to the dismay of our staid JW parents. We wore the "Raising Hell" tape out, quite literally. 2 back-country kids in the middle of Nowhere,VA...we couldn't get enough of their music!!!

So sad, especially since I remember them speaking publicly on several occasions against the violent/gang/drug turn hip-hop was beginning to take.

I miss those days, when it was all about "My Adidas, roaming all over coliseum floors" and such. Sigh.....

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"Jay's like King Midas, as I was told
Everything that he touched turned to gold
He's the greatest of the great, get it straight he's great
Claim fame cause his name is known in every state
His name is Jay, to see him play will make you say:

"God damn, that DJ made my day!" ---"Peter Piper", by Run-DMC

Edited by - razorMind on 1 November 2002 1:7:48

Edited by - razormind on 1 November 2002 1:10:34

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Physical appearance IN the troof vs. out

by razorMind in

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i just had a question.....a rant is intertwined as well (sorry) .

when i was in the jw's, i noticed so many "new one'z" and "interested one'z" who were nicely dressed people.

many were fairly well-groomed, the women & girls with nice stylish fashion taste.

razorMind

I just had a question.....a rant is intertwined as well (sorry)

When I was in the JW's, I noticed so many "new ONE'Z" and "interested ONE'Z" who were nicely dressed people. Many were fairly well-groomed, the women & girls with nice stylish fashion taste.

After they were in it for several years, I also noticed a lot whose looks progressively went downhill. They progressively got less and less nicely dressed. Hair did the same. General grooming went downhill, too. Some went through significant weight gain. I distinctly remember a young girl from NYC whose JW grandmother down here gained custody of her. She was an extremely well-dressed (classic-stylish, not "hoochie"-stylish) young lady whose appearance generally deteriorated, hair and all, over the years living as a JW. I'd like to add that said grandmother was quite wealthy herself. I'd also like to note that this girl ended up fleeing back to her other relatives in NYC.

My youngest sister basically looks like shit. She is extremely attractive but my mother refuses to buy her anything but frumpy flowered near-ankle-length dresses. She had to FIGHT my parents to get rid of her coke-bottle glasses and get contacts. She has seborrheic dermatitis so bad that it looks like she has vitiligo. Her face is like, 2 distinctly different colors. (side note: if you, reader, have seborrheic dermatitis, especially on your face, please get it taken care of. It can get bad. REALLY bad.)

She has severe allergies and sinus problems so bad that I can barely stand to listen to her talk. She sounds like she's talking through a long hollow tube. One recent sinus infection left her with limited hearing in one ear--I have to get on her good side to talk, or else she can't hear me. She gained an alarming amount of weight and has the worst body-image issues I've ever known a person to have. She hasn't seemed to give a damn about the most basic grooming issues. I mean, her skin is absolutely HORRIFYING...

I have been seeing a lot more of her lately; she moved away from my parents briefly, and now have moved back in with them. She seems to care slightly more about her appearance in recent weeks. She's lost right much weight, actually combs her hair now, and has bought nicer clothes. Actually, much of these changes have occurred since she's been in contact with me. I try not to make too much mention of how bad her skin looks; I just ask her (repeatedly) if the rash doesn't hurt and if she's using anything for it. (side note AGAIN: if s.d. gets severe enough, it can go far beyond simple dandruff & skin flaking. It can become quite painful.)

These two points in this thread are somehow tied together.....I hurt so badly for my sister because I was in the EXACT SAME PLACE she is in now. I think she suffers from depression, actually. My whole appearance was SHITTY while I was in the JW's and living at home. Although I did at least make some efforts to look groomed and clean...whereas my sister doesn't. When I got away from my parents and from the JW's, I felt SO MUCH BETTER about myself. I started caring for myself and trying to look nice. I have s.d. too, but I went to the dermatologist and got medicine for it. I'm no beauty queen, but DAMN, I try to look my best.

I don't know how to help her...my parents (hard-core, staunch elder and elderette) truly don't seem to care. They constantly harp on her about how much weight she's gained and how she needs to stop being so lazy and stop eating the wrong foods. They've kept her totally dependent on them all her life--she's 22 and has never had a steady job, can't cook or wash clothes, and until the last few months didn't know what a checking account was. I won't go into the guilt trips. I am just now finding out about truly fucked-up stuff they have done to her over the years---severe control issues, guilt issues, etc. Way worse than when I and my other sister lived there.

They have drilled into her that they will literally die if she, their last child, leaves the "troof" like their other 2 kids. She's aware that my parents are 1/2 of the problem, but how can I tell her that the "troof" is the other half? I've made my point with her about my general feelings about JW, especially df'ing, but right now she's at the stage where she keeps telling me that "all congregations aren't like the one we grew up in" and "the df'ing policy isn't as strict in all congregations", etc. etc. Again I say, a few years back I was defending them the exact same way. I can't bombard her with too much right now, else the wall will go up completely. I fear my parents have irreparably damaged her and I don't know how I can help her.

There's other shit involved too--she got married to a JW boy right out of high school who's basically in the same situation. They are like two 10-yr-olds in young adult bodies. Right now they've gotten evicted and are back in with my folks, who are treating them both with hatred and contempt. I want to scream to my folks, "BUT ISN'T THIS JUST WHAT YOU FUCKING WANTED? For us to marry 'nice JW boys'? Isn't this why you think me and other sis are fucking failures, cause we married 'worldly' boys? You got a daughter who's still in the 'troof' and a nice JW SIL, so WHY AREN'T YOU FUCKING HAPPY? HUH? HUH?"

I don't know what exactly I am saying in this post--I started out with a question and I just can't stop typing. I am sorry this ran on so long, thanks if you read this far. If you'd like to comment your personal experiences regarding either the thread title or whatever, please feel free. Thanks again.

Edited by - razorMind on 19 October 2002 12:12:9