1914 being an invisible presence and not exactly the end of the world...but it was the START of the end times. This revelation came in 1915. :)
they've strung people along a hundred years with that one. Serious skills.
FayeDunaway
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New Light! - Old bulb was getting dim.
by The_Doctor10 in'this old bulb is about to go out, let's just unscrew this old light, screw this fresh one in, new light, we have new light!'.
it's always bugged me how you only see big doctrinal changes, "new light," happen right around the same time the "old light," is about to blow out.. this "over-lapping generation," teaching is the perfect example, "old light" was about to be extinguished as being impossible to maintain, "new light brothers, we have new light!
" and everyone is amazed, when all it is is a stop-gap fix.. "new light," is synonymous with, "buying time.
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New Light! - Old bulb was getting dim.
by The_Doctor10 in'this old bulb is about to go out, let's just unscrew this old light, screw this fresh one in, new light, we have new light!'.
it's always bugged me how you only see big doctrinal changes, "new light," happen right around the same time the "old light," is about to blow out.. this "over-lapping generation," teaching is the perfect example, "old light" was about to be extinguished as being impossible to maintain, "new light brothers, we have new light!
" and everyone is amazed, when all it is is a stop-gap fix.. "new light," is synonymous with, "buying time.
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FayeDunaway
The 'donation arrangement' in the u.s., right when the government was going to start taxing religious sales. What a coincidence! And it was all a loving arrangement from Jah! The talk at the circuit assembly never mentioned the new tax rule.
The 1995 generation change, meaning it could be just a general group of people who saw the effects of Christ's invisible presence, and not specifically those born before 1914. I think this actually made more sense than their newer overlapping generation spiel. It came just as the 70 or 80 year generation that saw 1914 was dying off.
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Vertigo, WTH.
by James Mixon inwho here have suffer from vertigo?
if so how did you combat it?
how long.
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FayeDunaway
Yeah it's probably inner ear problems.
For me the simple Brandt-Daroff home exercises worked (don't worry all it involves is lying in bed and sitting up! Easiest exercises ever!)
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Wish You Knew? Ask a Jew!
by CalebInFloroda inbecause on another thread questions about just what the hell jews believe kept taking us off topic, i decided to start this new one.
that's why, as you will notice, it has that new thread smell.
i will do my best to give thorough and concise answers, but be warned: i do not take myself very seriously.
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It is somewhere in my Netflix queue. Sorry I havent gotten the joke yet. Might get to it in like 2018...but yeah I'll be all over it when I get there :). -
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Just an introduction
by Israel Ricky Gonzales injust wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
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FayeDunaway
And your wife will be determined to keep them in. An encouraging thing is that if children have a family member who is not a witness, their chances of not sticking with it are much higher.
Also, the more fun stuff you guys can do that distracts your wife from service and meetings the more she will embrace a normal life. And don't let her stop working and go back to pioneering. Say you can't afford it. Got to save for college ;). Or whatever will work.
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Something that my devout JDUB cousin said...
by yogosans14 inwe used to be so close before she got heavily involved in the jw religion.
she actually got me into it (i actually believed all the nonsense) and i went to meetings with her and everything, we were like brother and sister.
she lives in texas now in a remote area where their is no cell phone signal or anything with her dad and mom (i think they said they moved their to get closer to jehovah which is weird).
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FayeDunaway
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Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....
by Witness 007 inwe were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.
jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.
he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.
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FayeDunaway
So true, it's North Korea and she better not complain.
I remember that laundry room and seeing how hard those sisters were working. they're going to die young. Used up and spit out.
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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta
by freemindfade insoliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
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Loved the Daniel Genser story!! If anyone here hasn't read it, click on oubliette's link above. It is beautiful. -
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How to get JWs to talk about disfellowship?
by datto ini have heard a lot about disfellowship from forums, blogs & youtube clips.
and all of them are real experiences from ex-jw.
however i have never physically met an ex-jw before.
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FayeDunaway
It's not only for an 'act of sin' that they will shun. If someone decides they no longer agree with the witnesses and dares to go to another church, they will also be shunned. They may call it 'disassociation' in this case. But if you are a baptized witness, you are not allowed to ever, ever change your mind.
Some may be automatically 'disassociated' or others might choose to write a letter of disassociation. If someone is disassociated they lose all family and friends who are witnesses.
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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta
by freemindfade insoliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
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FayeDunaway
Oh my, those last 4 posts were quite discouraging. This religion tears apart families. I think I'm the first woman to contribute here, and I just want to tell you what to say through my perspective.
Assure her you love her and you want to stay strong together and she is the only one for you. She might be somewhat insecure about that, because you are an attractive man. Also assure her you do not want to be the master of her faith, that is up to her. If she started seeing things your way eventually, that would be fantastic, but you won't push her and you will let her decide on her own, but no matter what you will be by her side. Let her know that even though you have decided you don't believe in any of it, you are still a moral person and you're going to be a faithful husband. Let her know you know how hard this is for her, and you are the one who changed, and it's not what she was expecting when she married you. But remind her you married for love, and that has not changed.
I didn't read the Gerber story yet. It sounds great. But just wanted to tell you what a female would want to hear. (Edit, it took forever to write that, and I do think clarity who posted meanwhile is female!)