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  How long did your exit process take?

  by StillGroggy in

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  this has probably been posted before, but i'm new here.

  for those who daed or dfed, how long did your exit take and why?.

  i'm trying to figure out how long it'll take me to get out.. thanks.

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  twinkletoes

  After our son stumbled upon the UN-WT hypocrisy on the internet, we took about 1 year to verify all of the things we were finding out (mainly from this forum) we also read Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom (Ray Franz's books). We wrote to the London Bethel and the elders in the congregation, but the Bethel didn't even have the decency to respond to our letter (at that point we were only asking questions) two of the elders came to see us, and we gave them photocopies of all of the info that we had - including a letter from the UN. They went away saying that they would look into matters - We waited months for their response but none came, so in the end we wrote to the Cong and said that if we didn't hear from them within 14 days we wished for our names to be taken off as members of JW. They responded in exactly 14 days, advising that they had taken our names off the cong.list. That was of course signed by three elders. So much for shepherds looking after the sheep.

  In all I think it took about 1 - 2 years to finally be free from them.

  Twink & Kaytee
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  anti-witness surprise today

  by johnny cip in

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  i run into 6 sisters today .

  i would guess poineering.

  figured i'd stop and give them a try.

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  Really really good, well done Johnny
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  TIME FOR ANOTHER LAUGH!

  by Dansk in

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  don't step on the ducks !!

  three women die together in an accident and go to heaven.

  when they get there, st. peter says, "we only have one rule here in heaven: don't step on the ducks!

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  All so funny - thanks, just what we need on a miserable rainy day.

  Man who runs in front of car gets tired

  Man who runs behind car gets exhausted

  twink
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  Vegetables on Front Porch Cause Uproar of Scandal and Intrigue for Local KH

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  apupi - illinois.

  local jw, susan estrogen, recalls her horror when she first saw the large, orange vegetables on the porch.

  "there i was between breaks while out on field service when i saw it!

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  twinkletoes

  Very funny

  bttt

  twink
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  language: contradiction or not ?

  by KAYTEE in

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  this is something that has always puzzled me.

  genesis 10 v 5 - "...the population was spread about in their lands according to its tongues".

  genesis 11 v 1 - "...now all the earth continued to be of one tongue and one set of words".

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  Narkissos

  I'm in the process of reading the book "Who wrote the bible" - Richard Elliott Friedman, and it is beginning to put a new light on some of the scriptures. It implies that different people actually wrote the first 5 books of the bible and not Moses. With these thoughts in mind, a lot of apparent contradictions are beginning to be explained.

  When I've finished with the book, I'll be handing it over to KAYTEE, as the info in it is very enlightening.

  Twink
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  MY SON WAS ATTACKED!

  by Dansk in

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  yesterday afternoon my older son, karl, who is studying musical production at brighton university, came round to see his family.

  he had just been to see his pregnant girlfriend, who is staying with her mum and dad for a week.. karl is a wonderful boy; the type of son any parent would be proud of.

  he is loving, considerate, respectful and has never once caused any trouble or been in any.

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  twinkletoes

  Just read your thread - that is so awful. But we're so glad that Karl legged it. Obviously he must be quite shaken up by the whole episode. As others have said, these scumbags are everywhere. We have problems even here in the rural villages. I say let's bring back a punishment to fit the crime, instead of all of the "do-gooders" with their bird-brain ideas.

  (((Karl)))

  Love to you, Claire and all of the families involved.

  Twinkletoes & Kaytee
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  Cover Letter and Letter of Disassociation.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i am forced to either accept df'ing without any defense [i clearly have none against charges of apostasy], or to at least 'speak my mind' one last time as i exit, with a hope of perhaps helping others to 'wake up'.. to that end - i have elected to send a letter of da to the elders - but more importantly - a copy of it, with a cover letter, to several families in the congregation.

  most of these things never have a positive result, i know.

  but at least i have attempted in this way to give a little defense for my position.

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  Excellent letter Jeff. I sincerely hope that some of your friends will read it and take note, but more likely they will put it into the rubbish bin before they get to the end of the first page. But you never know ! We did the same thing with our DA letter - we sent our letters first to friends (about 17) but not one of them got in touch. If the WT are good at anything, then they are good at brainwashing, that's for sure.

  I will print out your letter to add to our ever increasing files on the JWs.

  Well done

  Twinkletoes and Kaytee
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  Five years posting!

  by LittleToe in

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  it doesn't seem two minutes since i first joined this site.

  on the other hand it feels like i've been here forever, accumulating about 15,000 posts in the process.. it was a wednesday (12 september 2001) on a small island off the west coast of scotland .

  in recent months i had experienced a spiritual awakening of such proportions that it caused me to question one after another of the beliefs that i'd been raised with as a jw.

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  Congratulations LT - we certainly enjoy your posts and are looking forward to meeting up for the curry in Oct.

  Twinkletoes and hubby Kaytee
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  Learnt just through the internet

  by greendawn in

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  what significant things did you learn through the internet that you would otherwise not get to know?

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  twinkletoes

  
  Same as Loneysheep - JW/UN was the biggest revelation which then lead on to finding this site.

  But I've got to admit that today, for the first time, I have managed to complete the Sunday Express big crossword with the help of the internet - my son said I was cheating (yes - but only a little) :)

  Twink
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  Penton's book is poorly referenced: Apocalypse Unsubstantiated!

  by slimboyfat in

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  of course it goes without saying that penton's apocalypse delayed is the best history of jehovah's witnesses we have (though timothy white's would be the best apart from its age), but i am continually frustrated by his lack of references for key claims.

  here is an example where he is talking about reports of drinking in bethel:drinking, then, almost became part of the cult of machismo into which the new workers were quickly inducted.

  old bible students such as clayton woodworth and olin moyle objected, and nathan knorr refused to go along with rum-running from canada.

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  I've just started to read Apocalypse Delayed, and it's very interesting. I hadn't really noticed the lack of references - yet !, but I do agree that all quotes should be referenced.

  twink