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  ever had an out-of-body experience?

  by poppers in

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  once in a while, usually in the morning shortly after waking up, i find my "body" lifting up from my physical body, but i remain attached at the head.

  it's a very pleasant experience but i wish i could totally separate from the physical body so i could go exploring.

  this happened this morning again.. .

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  Mary,
  
  Why must you always insinuate that I believe people are lying? People can easily be MISTAKEN without purposely lying.
  
  Like I said, all we have here is a STORY about something that happened 12 years ago. The surgeon RECOLLECTS what happened, but the actual hard data is nowhere to be found (actual logs from the monitoring instruments).
  
  How do we know how sensitive his monitoring instruments were from 12+ years ago?
  
  Again, how do you know how much or little knowledge the patient had about the procedure before hand? It's quite possible that she dreamed the sequence seconds before going under, as DrWatsn pointed out. Dreams are usually extremely quick, but seem like they last a long time.
  
  This is just a silly account to use as evidence for any type of soul or paranormal activity. There is no meat to this. There is nothing extraordinary about it.
  
  The dentures story is just lame - it's common knowledge that some people in comas can hear what's going on around them. Lommmel's theory is just ridiculous - so if my arm is amputated, I lose part of my consciousness? That's got to be the most stupid thing I ever heard.
  
  Should I expect better from Reader's Digest? I really don't know.
  
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  Is there proof of Evolution out there? help needed

  by trumangirl in

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  i've faded, but i still would like to have faith in a creator/god.

  but i am really not sure if my belief in god is the result of being brought up a jw and being stuck with a particular world-view.

  the best thing i can do is challenge myself by reading some material that explains proof of the evolution, but i have not seen anything that does this yet, i've only seen explanations of the theory, not the proof.

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  Trumangirl,
  
  >>Sure, highly improbable things happen everyday, but the difference with evolution is that the theory demands that we believe that a whole series of related and appearingly purposeful coincidences and highly improbable events happened, one after the other.
  
  There is a big difference between fortunate random related events happening in sequence and:
  
  -Random events creating millions of mutations - many bad, many neutral, few good
  -Run through a filter that keeps only the good mutations
  -Repeat
  
  You see, in the later, the fortunate events don't have to come in a perfect series. There are literally millions of random mutations that can be selected from simultaneously. If only the good are passed on, then you start to understand that what we see in the fossil record isn't so extraordinary afterall. It's a building process - you don't have to be so lucky to get a good hand in the end.
  
  Think of Yahtzee. No-one is so lucky that they would get a winning hand if they rolled the dice and entered their score sequentially on the scorecard. Only by running the rolls through a filter, or a type of algorithm - and keeping the good rolls in good spots and eliminating the bad ones do you come up with a good score.
  
  rem - not a Yahtzee player
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  ever had an out-of-body experience?

  by poppers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once in a while, usually in the morning shortly after waking up, i find my "body" lifting up from my physical body, but i remain attached at the head.

  it's a very pleasant experience but i wish i could totally separate from the physical body so i could go exploring.

  this happened this morning again.. .

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  Mary,
  
  We don't have any evidence - this is just an anecdote. The surgeon has access to all of the medical device logs that would show for a fact whether there was no brain activity or not. We are just going on hearsay here.
  
  Frankly, what you find extraordinary, I find quite normal. They were working on her groin and she said that? A toothbrush for a surgical saw? Am I supposed to be impressed?
  
  Do you know how many times this lady had been in surgery before? Maybe she read about the procedure? Maybe the doctor briefed her on the procedure beforehand. There are way too many variables to claim this as some type of paranormal event when there is really nothing extraordinary about it.
  
  A Reader's Digest summary does not give us enough evidence for such an extraordinary claim.
  
  I believe it takes faith like nothing a skeptic posesses to maintain a belief in the paranormal on such scant evidence.
  
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  Do you believe in God?

  by XBEHERE in

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  after reading the wt for last week's lesson on god's creative works i couldnt help but think that there really is a god, there has to be.

  i dont want to start a creation vs. evolution debate but you have to agree that its an extremely remote chance that the whole universe, the planets, stars, the sun, the earth, the animals, humans came about by accident.

  i mean, what the chances really.

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  What are the chances that you even exist? All of the contingencies that had to take place since the start of time for your parent's particular gametes to combine to form you. You're a freaking miracle! Some intelligent being must have done it.
  
  [/sarcasm] :)
  
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  Good-Bye (Good-Riddance?)

  by proplog2 in

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  this is my 999 post.

  i've been fairly active on this board for the last month trying to get to 1,000.. this has not been an easy task for me.

  my posts aren't just brief comments.

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  Buh Bye
  
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  Dahmer's Parents on Larry King

  by rem in

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  did anyone see the larry king interview with jeffery dahmer's parents yesterday?

  his father is a devout creationist and even converted jefferey to a creationist while he was in prison.

  the interesting thing i thought, though, was the father's theory for why jeffery was able to commit those murders: because jeffery believed in evolution.

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  Did anyone see the Larry King interview with Jeffery Dahmer's parents yesterday? His father is a devout creationist and even converted Jefferey to a creationist while he was in prison.
  
  The interesting thing I thought, though, was the father's theory for why Jeffery was able to commit those murders: because Jeffery believed in Evolution.
  
  :Barf:
  
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  ever had an out-of-body experience?

  by poppers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once in a while, usually in the morning shortly after waking up, i find my "body" lifting up from my physical body, but i remain attached at the head.

  it's a very pleasant experience but i wish i could totally separate from the physical body so i could go exploring.

  this happened this morning again.. .

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  I'd like to see the evidence of this claim - not just a Reader's Digest summary. There is no point in taking an extraordinary claim seriously if there aren't the goods to back it up. I sense some exaggeration in this account, though there is no way to prove it because the evidence is conveniently missing.
  
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  What Are You READING?

  by patio34 in

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  okay, it seems it's high time we had another thread like this!.

  for serious reading, i have exceptions to the rulers by amy goodman (goes great with fahrenheit 911!

  )the curse of adam by bryan skyles (i think) (it predicts the extinction of males.

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  The Skeptical Environmentalist, Bjorn Lomborg
  Beyond Good and Evil, Frederick Nietzsche
  
  Looking forward to Prisoner's Dilemma, a sort of biography about Von Neuman and game theory.
  
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  How many raised in "the truth" have left??

  by L_A_Big_Dawg in

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  this subject has been gnawing at me for awhile now.. so many of you:.

  1) were raised in "the truth?".

  2) did you get baptized and at what age?.

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  1) Raised in the troof
  
  2) Baptized at 13
  
  3) Started fading at 23 or so. DA'd at 25, about 3 years ago
  
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  Dateline--Fahrenheit 911

  by patio34 in

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  michael moore is being interviewed tonight on nbc dateline @ 8 est and then he'll also be on david letterman at 11:30 est.. p.s.

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/203263p-175365c.html.

  heated exchange at 'fahrenheit'?.

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  I'm trying to figure out the logic behind this whole litigation reasoning... so the fact that NASA doesn't sue conspiracy theorists who claim that we never went to the moon means there must be something to it. (???)
  
  Maybe there is nothing worth suing over. Having a different interpretation of the same facts isn't something you can sue over. I'm sure it's pretty difficult to sue someone for taking your words out of context with creative editing.
  
  rem