Interesting subject....I wonder if all of the phone sex I had with that Bethelite were tape recorded? I'd like to hear those...pretty steamy!
Nicole
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Bethel Getting Paranoid, Tightening Screws
by AlanF ini have it from solid sources that brooklyn and patterson are now recording all incoming telephone calls.. a word to the wise if you have friends there you talk to.. alanf
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I'm Leavin'--on a jet plane!
by LDH inok kids just wanted to tell you i will be on vacation from tomorrow through next sunday, in case anyone misses my posts (pro'lly not) and wonders if i am ok.. i'm going to cabo san lucas, mexico.
just me and hubby, can't wait.. lisa
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I hope you have a great time!
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Comparison of Mormonism and JWism
by alex ini'm thinking that the mind-control games are very very very very much the same between mormonism and jwism.
i've lurked here for a while and thought i'd introduce myself.
my name is alex and i'm an unbelieving mormon who lives in utah.
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rodnico
Alex-
It is funny but I have never thought about the similarities between the two organizations. I was raised in Utah. I lived in Ogden, and was a regular pioneer all over northern Utah. Because I was one of the few non-Mormon kids at school it had a strange affect of strengthening a faith.
When my family first moved to Utah to serve where the need was great (there were few witnesses in the area) my mother began to read anti-Mormon apostate literature. She researched the church she used to say "I don't know how someone could believe this", and then she just stopped. I remember someone asking her why she stopped and she never really gave a decent answer. Now looking at this post I wonder if she saw the similarities and it shook her faith????
This is interesting to me now I think I will do more research.
Thanks for the post Alex.
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"Needgreaters" website?
by sf inthis was hyperlink on "len buckholtz" site:.
< http://www.jwnet.org/needgreaters/.
a portion:.
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What really bothers me about this situation is the lack of healthcare. My mother who is in her late 50's is literally dedicating her life, and living the "missionary" style life. If she gets sick guess who foots the bill? Me. If anything happens to her while she is down there again who will get sent the bill? Me. It makes me angry over the situation. Because there are these stupid "reasoning’s" why a single woman cannot go to Gilead and at least get some compensation, but that same woman can pay her own way to a foreign country like you pointed out and get no assistance from the WTBTS. It is a financial scam you're right.
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"Needgreaters" website?
by sf inthis was hyperlink on "len buckholtz" site:.
< http://www.jwnet.org/needgreaters/.
a portion:.
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My mother was at that one day thing. She is a "needgreater" in the Dominican Republic. I can only tell you about my mother and her roommates.
First off my mother is NOT being paid. She is different than her roommates. She has a house (her only worldly possession) she rents out. From the difference in the rent vs. mortgage she is able to live comfortably in the Dominican Republic. Her roommates on the other hand work for a few months in the states or whatever country you listed and then return there to live.
From what she has told me the majority are women. Because women are not allowed to go to Gilead if they are single or if they are over 35 they take it upon themselves to preach to the less fortunate. My mother preaches to the deaf in the Dominican Republic. They use pictures to teach them.
So the majority of these people are ones who were not accepted into Gilead for one reason or another and have a desire to preach to people in other countries. For my mother it is her mosquito coast, she is escaping the realities of the western world.
When she came to visit me the first time in 4 years and I paid for the plane ticket, she said to me "if we would have become "needgreaters" when you were young you would still be a witness today". I swiftly corrected her and said sooner or later I would have come to my senses whether in the US, Peru or Mars.
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Richard Scarry's Best Field Service Story--EVER
by LDH inok so pardon me for the take off on richard scarry--he really is one of my favorite all time children's authors.. but i had to share this field service story with you--it's the gospel truth!
hopefully, you can add some of yours.. while pioneering in upstate ny, my sister and i had frequent occasions to work in service with a married pioneer couple.
yes, they were window washers, but that's not the real story here.. they had a return visit on an elderly gentleman who was kind enough to take the magazines every once in a while.
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rodnico
That is just sick.
I used to regular pioneer in a Spanish-speaking group in Northern Utah. I had bible studies mainly with migrant workers out in the fields. One time I had a bible study with the wife of a Shepard close to the Idaho border. It was about an hours drive to get to where she lived. One day I had to go visit her alone, no one wanted to travel with me. I was on a dirt road, and a small white truck like a Budget or a Uhaul truck was in front of me at a stop sign. When the truck pulled out blood came spewing from it. It ran down the sides, and out of the bottom of the pull down door. It splattered onto my theocratic 4 door white sedan. I was in shock. The truck was making a turn and as it turned on the side was written mobile slaughter. YUCK! -
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Remembering Will
by SlayerLayer ini didn't really know these people that well.
i was only ten.
we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.
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Now I am remembering the people I could have helped or could have been nicer to in my haste to free myself from the organizaiton.
Nicole"That old saying, how you always hurt the one you love. Well, it works both ways."
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rodnico
I am in Atlanta, GA. Always looking for people to hang out with!
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Advice requested on response to mom's letter
by paulvarjak ini received this recently from my mother.
the only contact i've had with any of my family since october has been an occasional email.
you are 28 years old and you made the choice to put yourself, and us, in this position.
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rodnico
paulvarjak,
My heart goes out to you, and what you are suffering through. JW or not parents have a way of making you feel sick and childlike when we don't have their approval.
With my mother I tried all of the above steps. I tried throwing her words back in her face, and we would end up screaming at each other. I tried to ignore her and not talk to her, and my heart ached so bad I thought it would burst. I tried to show her I was the happiest I have ever been in my life, and she told me it was because Satan had me in his control and so no battle of good/bad. I tried to tell her what I had learned about the WTBTS, and she hung up on me. Every conversation that we had seemed to end in a fight, until I told her one day that no matter what happens in her life or how she treats me I still love her. I would always love her, and when she got old and WTBTS would not care for her I would always be there for her because she is my mother, and she gave me my life.
I do not have a "normal" relationship with her, and I suppose I never will, but we can talk now it does not end in a screaming match. The two things that have helped was first time. She needed time to deal with her grief, and then my response of unconditional love.
Every parent is different, and mine is more crazy than different, but this was my experience and what helped me.
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funny old life isnt it....
by Deacon ini was just looking out the window, as it would happen a middle aged woman, or perhaps a young woman worn out with her life walked past.
she stopped on the edge of the mall where my wifes office is, and sat on a bench outside the window.
on close look, she couldnt have been more than late 30's, but probably only 35.. she sat for a while just looking at the ground in front of her, her face just exhibiting that blank look of the world weary.
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When I finally realized that I did not really believe in god I wept. I cried for the same reason Outnfree, I grieved for the god I lost. I wish, I really wish that I could believe there is a god that cares, but I can't and I miss the time when I could believe.
Unlike you I am terrified to die. Panic sweeps my body when I think about dying. All of my life I knew, I knew that I was not going to die. I still haven't grieved for the loss of all my beliefs, but soon I will need to I can feel it.
I never really thought of it this way, but it is a natural progression towards healing.