Posts by ronin1

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Did U find Sheperding Calls rude?

by Reborn2002 in

jw
friends

reading the lb thread "home but hiding" struck a chord with me.. i remember when i was inactive for the period of about a year the elders made a few "sheperding calls".. did anyone else out there find these very rude and condescending?.

first of all, in my case at least they always showed up unannounced.

how much do you think those "hell-ders" would like it if someone randomly dropped by their house unexpected?

ronin1

Hi:

When I was single I only got a shepherding call if I asked for one
or if the CO visit was near. It was always about increase your time.

My husband and I have been married for 8 years now and we have only received shepherding calls when the Elders wanted to tell us what to do or think they should.

I always set the conditions on our shepherding calls. The elders did not like it, but I did not care. If you come to my house to do a shepherding call, only elders I felt comfortable with could come. And I did not get dressed up in a dress or skirt. I dressed casually and wore my house slippers or sneakers. (As far as I was concerned, they were on my "turf", so therefore they were going to "do as the Romans do", or do not bother coming by.

Also, if they could not prove anything from the Bible, I let them know do not talk to me.

Very rarely did I ever have a good feeling when they came or left. They just talked a lot of Watchtower JW jargon.

I had to set them straight with the Bible almost on each occasion. It's amazing how the elders do not know their Bible, just Watchtower
magazines (mind controlled) jargon.

They need to shepherd themselves.

That's my story,

Ronin 1

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ANOINTED Jehovah Witness has no doubt,

by lotus in

jw
friends

hello, i am new to this website, but have to be straightforward and say that i do not agree with most subjects and contents.

i am an active jehovah witness, but i am very lonely so i am looking for others with the "hope" or to speak to those that know someone that does.

it has been a long , hard road for me.

ronin1

Hi:

I really do not know if you are of the anointed or not. There are many persons not JW's who are of the anointed and we just do not know. So I am not going to guess.

However, if you are truly of the anointed I do not believe you would be conversing on this site. You will find less doubt on this site and more honest conversation and viewpoints than at the Kingdom Hall. You may be trying to say you have no doubts, but maybe deep down inside you do.

You will find out for yourself in due time.

Ronin1

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Did you ever fake field service?

by LyinEyes in

jw
friends

i know this was very wrong to do , but who out there stretched their field service time by any means possible?

example, letter writing, driving by the same house , when you knew no one was home.

let's be honest here, confess and get it off your chest.... lol

ronin1

Hi:

Here's my story:

I do not report my field service time. The elders over two (2)years ago talked to me about not reporting my time. I told them that if they could not show me scripturally where it states I must report the time I personally spend talking to others about Jehovah God, they had know basis to demand same.

They quoted the well known scripture that Jesus' followers reporting back to him all the things they had seen and heard. I responded that's right, not time.

They agreed they could not find a scripture to support their demands. I told them when they could let me know.

Needless to say, they could not and never did.

After one (1) more try to get me to report my time, they gave up.

My personal feeling is: Jehovah God and Jesus Christ knows what time I spend in my life talking to persons about the Bible. That is enough.

Case Closed.

Ronin 1

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JW MURDERED AFTER MEETING

by Mister Biggs in

the new york daily news ( http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-04-11/news_and_views/crime_file/a-147249.asp) and the new york post ( http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/14181.htm) ran different articles on the same story.. .

grieving niece:.

natala prince yesterday cradles .

ronin1

MR BIGGS:

I am stating my opinion, not necessarily judging. Only Jehovah and Jesus Christ can do that.

But her death could have been prevented. It was not an "unforseen" occurrence because someone, if not the elders, other pubishers could have given this faithful sister of 20+ years a ride home. That's my final word.

Ronin 1

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JW MURDERED AFTER MEETING

by Mister Biggs in

the new york daily news ( http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-04-11/news_and_views/crime_file/a-147249.asp) and the new york post ( http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/14181.htm) ran different articles on the same story.. .

grieving niece:.

natala prince yesterday cradles .

ronin1

TO OLD HIPPIE:

I spoke to an elder in my congregation and he agreed that she should not have been taking the bus home at night by herself. It could have been that even if she was independent, loving elders or others in the cong on a regular basis could have said: "sister, please let us drive you home. We know you can go by yourself, but we really care about you and want to see you get home safely". No matter how independent a person is, seeing the brothers true concern and love may move one to say "ok, thanks very much. I accept".

So, I am not "throwing stones", but even Christ told the "John" to look after his mother after his death.

The brothers and especially the elders must look after ones in the congs and especially our older ones and make sure they have, as can be possible, a safe haven home from the meetings.

Jehovah and Jesus Christ expects that type of shepherding for their "sheep".

So, I still do not excuse this cong or their elders.

Her death could possibly have been avoided.

Ronin1

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JW MURDERED AFTER MEETING

by Mister Biggs in

the new york daily news ( http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-04-11/news_and_views/crime_file/a-147249.asp) and the new york post ( http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/14181.htm) ran different articles on the same story.. .

grieving niece:.

natala prince yesterday cradles .

ronin1

This is really sickening.

The so-called "spiritual" elders and friends in the congs allowed this faithful sister in the cong for approx 20 years to take the bus home in this terrible crime ridden area by herself.

The truth is maybe if someone drove her home she would be alive today.

This was not unforseen. It could have been prevented by caring elders and friends in the cong. (However, there were none that night).

Ronin1

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

well, it's sunday and we've done reading the sunday papers, so thought it might be nice to poll the worldwide community on some important issues.

no, it's not meant to be fluff, i'm serious in inviting opinions from exdubs in many places, so please respond.

this week i've chosen the question especially for the large worldwide da/df community: what is the main reason for you not wanting to return?.

ronin1

My answer to your poll is items:
#2, 3, and 4.

Ronin1

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Is This True? Fidelity Group Insurance and WT

by WinstonMorgan in

i got this in the mail.

perhaps representatives of the company would like to tell here if this is true?.

two bigshot elders in new york city were in on the fidelity group insurance scandal.

ronin1

Hey Everyone:

It's definitely true. And Dwayne Samuels was an assistant c.o. in our circuit in Queens NY. He was an affluent and very emotional speaker when giving talks at the ciruit assemblies. Ask anyone. When Dwayne Samuels was scheduled to give a talk, hardly anyone missed or left their seats.

In fact, I feel he was followed like some "god". But "false gods" get destroyed.

We saw him and his family (in fact they sat not far from us) at last year's (2001) district convention at Nassau in Long Island, NY.

I heard and believe he is returning the the meetings at the Kingdom Hall in our area although I am not sure which one.

I heard he had a house valued at $500,000 in Long Island. If this is true, goes to show you where some of that money he stole went to.

(Those who are put on high pedestals can always be brought low, and when they fall it usually is a very hard and rough fall).

So be it!!

RONIN1

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WT Website Puts Up Articles On Molestation!

by silentlambs in

the listings below are a new offering from the watchtower website.

it seems the brothers have developed a real concern for putting up every article ever written about child abuse.

i appreciate this greatly as it helps the public to see the great deficiency of watchtower policy.

ronin1

SORRY: I FORGET MY NAME SIGNATURE-SEE POST AGAIN

OK EVERYONE-
"THE CONCLUSION OF THE MATTER, EVERYTHING HAVING BEEN HEARD, IS FEAR THE [TRUE] GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE [OBLIGATION] OF MAN. FOR THE [TRUE] GOD HIMSELF WILL BRING EVERY SORT OF WORK INTO THE JUDGEMENT IN RELATION TO EVERY HIDDEN THING, AS TO WHETHER IT IS GOOD OR BAD". (New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures).

"LAST WORD; ALL IS HEARD; FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE OF MAN. FOR GOD WILL BRING EVERY ACTION UNDER A JUDGEMENT COVERING EVERY UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCE, BE IT GOOD OR BE IT BAD". (The Bible in Living English).

Therefore,regarding the child molestation situation: the Watchtower Organization, its governing body (what a joke), d.o.'s, c.o.'s, m.s., elders, committees, etc. can try to cover all they want; it will not stay a cover-up and anyone by now who does see the Watchtower Organization for what it really is:falsehood, lies, deceits, and greed is living in denial. The only thing true is God's Word the Holy Bible.

The Watchtower Organization, etal will finally get what's coming to them.

Now to that we can readily say: AMEN!!.

RONIN1

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WT Website Puts Up Articles On Molestation!

by silentlambs in

the listings below are a new offering from the watchtower website.

it seems the brothers have developed a real concern for putting up every article ever written about child abuse.

i appreciate this greatly as it helps the public to see the great deficiency of watchtower policy.

ronin1

OK EVERYONE-

"THE CONCLUSION OF THE MATTER, EVERYTHING HAVING BEEN HEARD, IS FEAR THE [TRUE] GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE [OBLIGATION] OF MAN. FOR THE [TRUE] GOD HIMSELF WILL BRING EVERY SORT OF WORK INTO THE JUDGEMENT IN RELATION TO EVERY HIDDEN THING, AS TO WHETHER IT IS GOOD OR BAD". (New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures).

"LAST WORD; ALL IS HEARD; FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE OF MAN. FOR GOD WILL BRING EVERY ACTION UNDER A JUDGEMENT COVERING EVERY UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCE, BE IT GOOD OR BE IT BAD". (The Bible in Living English).

Therefore,regarding the child molestation situation: the Watchtower Organization, its governing body (what a joke), d.o.'s, c.o.'s, m.s., elders, committees, etc. can try to cover all they want; it will not stay a cover-up and anyone by now who does see the Watchtower Organization for what it really is:falsehood, lies, deceits, and greed is living in denial. The only thing true is God's Word the Holy Bible.

The Watchtower Organization, etal will finally get what's coming to them.

Now to that we can readily say: AMEN!!.