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  What are your thoughts on the composite sign?

  by Leander in

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  lately i've been giving a lot of thought on my decision to leave the wts behind and during the course of my musing i contemplated the meaning of the composite sign.

  and then it kind of struck me that perhaps this composite sign was really just a declaration of the obvious.

  for example some of the elements of the composite sign are: famine, pestilence, reports of natural disasters (earthquakes, etc..).

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  Let's see, the Black Plague struck europe in the early 1300's and within 5 or 6 years reduced the population from 75 million to 50 million. The plague continued to kill people for the next few hundred years. War killed thousands more and probably most in europe didn't make it much past the age of 30. I believe in 1914 there were about 2 billion people on the earth. The Spanish influenza kill about 30 million people. Number killed was almost the same but to equal the percent killed, it would have needed to kill twice as many. Then WWI came and killed a few million more.

  Hmmmm...I'm willing to bet that if you were able to interview people from each time, they would tell you they were living in the "great tribulation." Maybe the Society needs to copy right that term.
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  Uh oh, we got caught

  by Mulan in

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  we are so busted.

  i learned tonight, from my source, that someon saw our christmas tree and reported it to the elders.. rats, our days of anonymity are likely almost over.

  starting tuesday, the local congregation has the circuit and the district overseer, before their ca next weekend.

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  Do you care about being DF'd?

  Not a bit

  Most JW's who have been away from meetings probably don't care too much about being df'd in the sense that they aren't recognized as a JW. What I hated was that I left the JW's, had a new life and they still felt the need to do the whole "we need to stick our nose into your personal life" thing.

  FYI - don't be surprised if they don't have a judical hearing. Technically if someone joins a church or military or YMCA or begins to celibrate the holidays and the elders have "evidence" of this, the JW has has Da'd himself and there wouldn't be a need for a hearing.

  Anyway, keep your pride and don't let those self-righteous men pull you down.
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  CHRISTMAS DAY FIELD SERVICE

  by vitty in

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  did you ever go out on the service christmas day.

  i always refused to, i mean even sinners deserved a day off from us calling.lol seriously i was too embarressed to.

  my husband got "forced" one year and said never again.

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  Go out in service on a day off from work? Are you nuts??? lol
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  Who are these idiots? Re: Scott Peterson Trial

  by IronGland in

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  these arent family members according to the caption, they're just people waiting outside the courtroom when the sentence was announced.

  their faces show they have some major emotional investment in this trial.

  the man even appears to be praying.

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  Only in California......
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  The 80's anthem: "The Breakfast Club"

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i just watched the breakfast club for the bazillionth time.

  i always turn 15 again when i watch it.

  i need to score the dvd, it isn't the same when they clip out scenes and rewrite the "naughty words".

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  Geez, haven't thought about that movie in years. "The Breakfast Club" and "Say Anything" - pretty accurate depictions of high school in the 80's.

  Geez, has it really been 20 years since my hs graduation???? lol
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  Letting myself get frustrated

  by redskymedic in

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  the only jw i still have contact with is my mother, mainly due to the fact that she is close with my 12-yr old son.

  she is single (divorced actually), cleans for a living, if that's what you can call it and has no other children.

  while she doesn't shun me per se, she certainly isn't overly friendly and keeps most of our communication limited to grandkid info.

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  I know the feeling. After I was Da'd, my family - especially my mother - treated me like I no longer existed. Most JW's can find SOME type of excuse to call (i.e. want to see the grand kids). Anyway, without going into too much detail, when my father died in a car accident suddenly all of them were calling me. "We need you to take care of the funeral, run the business, talk to the lawyer, talk to the accountant, etc." At first I was "oh sure, now you talk to me when you need something" but I didn't give them any attitude. I took care of the funeral. Took over running the family business. Make sure mom's house is kept up and she's taken care of.

  In the end, I've realized that other people's cruelity doesn't control whether or not I do the loving thing. Like you, I feel "frustrated" at times because it can feel like you're being taken advantage of. But I feel better knowing that I'm doing the right thing.
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  Get rich quick scheme mentality

  by JustTickledPink in

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  i was thinking about how many jws were into the "get rich quick" schemes.

  there were many brothers and sisters who went into the pyramid type schemes involving everything from "magnet therapy" to "mallaluca" to "amway" then there was some perfume knockoff home sales, home gym sales, etc.

  the lists go on and on.. i am not criticizing anyone that ends up being succesful in any home based business but merely pointing out how many jws i knew that were involved in them.

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  I remember a few years ago it seemed like every JW was pushing this new phone company. I can't recall the name but it was basically trying to get to switch from AT&T or Sprint to their company. Anyway, this one "brother" got so pissed with me because I wouldn't switch (I was happy with what I had) and because I wouldn't help him get the large company I worked for switched to his phone company.

  Brother love is one thing, but even with JW's, cash is king.
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  Before JWs existed?

  by Neophulis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a not-so simple question.... what would or have jws explained about any existence prior to charles taze russell's "epiphany" that he had discovered jehovah and the absolute truth surrounding jehovah.. the thing that i'm really picking at is i don't think many jws realize that their religion was formed by a mere mortal.

  a human being who considered himself a prophet.

  if such a man was to declare himself a prophet post-jw startup, jws would consider him part of "babylon" or manifestations of "satan himself!".

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  The Society points to certain people throughout history who didn't follow "false" teachings (i.e. trinity, hell fire, etc) as "unoffical" JW's. They point to the Bible and use Paul and John's writings about the great apostacy as an excuse for there not being this huge group of true Christians. I remember reading in the pages of the WT some reference to an obscure group of people who existed in Europe some 600 or so years ago and the WT stating that they didn't believe in hell fire or some other group from the middle east that existed 1,500 years ago and didn't believe in the trinity. As we all know, they are good at taking partial information and using it to their advantage. I believe Martin Luther has even been cited a couple of times. It's really not too difficult for them to find SOME group of people who believed something differnt and say "Ah-HA! these people were pretty darn close to believing the truth."

  What I feel is an even better question to ask them is "who was the faithful and descreet slave" class after the last apostle died? The WT states that in the first century as well as today it's the anointed on earth who are responsible with dispensing Jehovah's spiritual food. What happened to this group after the apostle John died? Did Jehovah let Satan rub out this group for 1,800 years until Russell came on to the scene?
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  Do you like cats?

  by ozziepost in

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  on tonight's news:.

  dead pets threaten beijing's 'green' olympics.

  5:35 pm december 16 .

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  I thought Chinese restaurants couldn't get hold of enough dead cats?

  Englishman.

  I've never been to mainland China but I do remember my first business trip to Taipei, Taiwan several years ago. I was SHOCKED by the number of stray dogs roaming the streets. They were everywhere! My host told me that puppies are very popular gifts but once they grow up people no longer want them and simply dump them on the streets. What was really sad to see was some full grown dogs with "choked down" necks because the dam owner didn't even bother to remove the coller when they dumped the dog. Anyway, I was told that they did try and convince the Koreans to come and get the dogs but were told that they had plenty of their own. On my next visit some about six months later, I didn't see a single dog running around. Never did find out how they solved the problem. Maybe the Koreans changed their minds.
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  Name Things That You Can Be Counseled For

  by minimus in

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  i'll start.......a woman wearing a skirt higher than her knee and a child crying during a meeting

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  Having your ears double or triple pierced.

  I was wondering about this. My ex was dropping off the kids the other day and she showed off her triple pierced ear(s). I can't remember if it was one or both. Anyway, I wonder if she keeps them in when going to the meetings. Somehow I doubt it. lol