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WTS - words they wish forgotten

by TR in

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russell:.

"there is no organization today clothed with authority.

" (wt 9/1/1893 p. 458).

RR

Here is a clasic:

The Watchtower is not the instrument of an man or any set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in the Watchtower. W11/01/31 p. 327

If we have love for Jehovah and for the organization of his people we shall not be suspicious, but shall, as the Bible says, 'believe all things,' all the things that The Watchtower brings out... QUALIFIED '55 156

(This one is regarding Job 40:15 to 41:34, where "leviathan" is interpreted as a train locomotive)

Thou wilt lengthen out leviathan (the locomotive) with a hook (automatic coupler) or with a snare (coupling-link) to drop down. Wilt thou not place a ring (piston) in his nostrils (cylinders) or pierce through his cheeks (piston-ends) with a staff (piston rod)? Will he make repeated supplications unto thee (to get off the track)? Or will he utter soft tones unto thee (when he screeches with the whistle)? ... Wilt thou play with him as with a bird (make him whistle at will)? Or wilt thou bind (enslave) him for thy maidens (so that you can take them to a picnic or convention)? Companies (of stockholders) will feast upon him (his earnings).. The Finished Mystery, 1926 ed, p 85

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Hello...Hello...Hello (cont) #3

by Prisca in

well someone had to do it, so it might as well be prim & proper prisca to do the honors in the sex forum...... .

this thread is for all newbies to introduce yourselves.

whatever you feel happy to reveal about yourself.

Born and raise a Catholic from a dysfunctional family. Became a JW through a childhood friend, started to question some years later, spent some seven years researching history and collecting old literature, fell in love with the simple years of the Watch Tower organization when they walked with Jesus, during that time got married. In 1992 I stepped down and relieved myself of all my congregational duties including kicking the bookstudy out of our home and declining parts on the school.

Started to associated with the Bible Students with my wife, was kicked out of our home, landlord was a JW AND my mother-in-law, moved away, and never saw the inside of a hall again, some nine years later, still married, have a daughter, still study with the Bible Students and am very happy and blessed.

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You heard it here second...

by SixofNine in

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page 29 of the wt publication, "true peace and security, how can you find it?

" (circa 1986- orange book- just to bring back a rich visual memory for you oldtimers).

sex before marriage, with one or more partners...will henceforth be considered morally acceptable.. .

RR

no fair six, that was a quote from the Church of England NOT the Watchtower Society!

You don't want to be guilty of Watchtowerism, eh?

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Another pagan ritual JW's practice

by TR in

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i recieved this in an email this morning: thanks, man.

it was the accepted practice in babylon 4,000 years ago that for a. month after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all the mead he could drink.

mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called the honey month or what we know today as the honeymoon.. tr

RR

Scorpion

Be careful of what group you think of joining. Even amongst RR's group one can be castigated for disagreements among the body. Charles T. Russell is held in high esteem by the Bible Students. To disagree with Russell or BR. Johnson or any other BS that wrote Bible Student theology, one can be set apart from the rest.

I would have to disagree with your assumption. At least from an ABS point of view [Associated Bible Students] people have come and gone within our studies and fellowship, should they choose not to agree with us, fine, we don't kick them out, we don't ignore them or DF them, we agree to disagree, we're quite tolerant of those who have other point oif views and it makes for some interesting studies.

As to Paul Johnson, Bible Students in general are not "Johnsonites." There is a group who go by the name Laymen's Home Missionary Movement, they adhere to Johnson and his theology, they chose to separate themselves from the Bible Students with their so called new light, added to Russell's writings, they are the ones who will not tolerate disagreements.

In case RR is wondering what I mean, does Eric Martin ring a bell?

I do not know Eric Martin personally, never met him, I do know he has been banned from certain boards because of his unChristlike character, insulting people, attacking them, despite being told to tone it down, he chose to continue in his attacks and his privileges removed. Eric was a former Jehovah's Witnesses who eventually began associating with the laymen's Home Missionary Movement, adopting their way of thinking, I do know he was threatened with a lawsuit by the Laymen's because of a website he put up that had copyrighted material by the Laymen's.

What about those that have been banned from your forum, Bravenet ( now defunct) and the one you run now.

Yes, I had a forum on bravenet, and to my knowledge only four people were ever banned from it, one was reinstated. The first was a former Jehovah's Witnesses who became a born again Christian, who acted like anything but a Christian, using strong language and not open to reason, having received many complaints about him and some of the posters leaving because of this individual and after personal and public pleas for him to stop and act Christian, he was banned, I had no choice, he broke the rules of civility. The other person was Eric Martin who also acted in the same manner, and took his tirade on another board, where he was also banned, and still the other was a female, former Witness, who kept harping on living forever on paradise earth and was being too disruptive.

I have nothing against you RR, but Russell was out there in left field without a glove.

That is your opinion and you my friend are entitled to that! I as well as others feel differently.

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Online Study Aids?

by Sassenach in

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i've been looking for online bible study aids.

i've just joined up with crosswalk.

that's got lots to wade through, although it does have the goshen net, which is a fantastic resource.. are there any bible aids, study sites or discussion groups anyone can recommend?

RR

yeah, try these ... www.goshen.com and www.crosswalk.com

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Another pagan ritual JW's practice

by TR in

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i recieved this in an email this morning: thanks, man.

it was the accepted practice in babylon 4,000 years ago that for a. month after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all the mead he could drink.

mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called the honey month or what we know today as the honeymoon.. tr

RR

I would agree that ones association with the Society tends to spoil it for furture association with any other Church, however, if you are God fearing and haven't let the Society theology taint your view of God and His Word, I would suggest you read your Bible and rely on the holy spirit for guidance.

There's nothing wrong with relying on so called "help books" or "scriptural resources" in our aid to understand the word, just as liong as we "make sure of all things" and not just accept them because someone says so.

I myself have been associating with a groyup of Bible Students for the last ten years and am deeply indebted to them, unlike how the Society likes to protray them as Russellites" or "man-worshippers" these are the most Christlike people I have ever met, studying the word and proving ALL things, and in my travels within their circles, I have found many former witnesses and even current witnesses who either sympathized or actually fellowship and study with them, including bethelites, former elders, servants and pioneers.

You will need to find someplace you are comfortable, but never forsake the gathering of the saints.

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Books

by eyes_opened in

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does anyone know if the books written by carl o. jonsson are any good?.

i looked at the descriptions at amazon and they look really fascinating.

was wondering if anyone here has read them and what they thought.

RR

I have read them all, I don't subscribe to his views, although the Society has yet to answer any of his claims, which makes him look right and they wrong, I do know that the Bible Students did write a thesis on the 607 date, and although Jonnson mentions the book in his second edition, he never answers the charges, since the book is only available via the Bible Students it is a little known book.

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Another pagan ritual JW's practice

by TR in

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i recieved this in an email this morning: thanks, man.

it was the accepted practice in babylon 4,000 years ago that for a. month after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all the mead he could drink.

mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called the honey month or what we know today as the honeymoon.. tr

RR

The Worldwide Church of God was one of those groups that were mentioned under the same breath as the Society under the banner of cult and brainwashing. It was started by Herbert Armstrong in the 1930s who was influenced by the writings of Russell and the adventist.

After his death in the mid 1980s, it didn't take long for a father anfd son team, Joseph Tkach and his son who succeeded him Jospeh Jr. to turn this worldwide "cult" into an mainstream church, having accepted the teachings of christendom [trinity, hellfire, immortal soul, etc.] and having lost most of its membership in a big exodus which caused several splinter groups who hold faithful to Herbert Armstrongs theology.

They had to sell some of their property, closed down universities, etc because of lack of funds. Today, they are a member of the National Association of Evangelicals, and their names have been removed from the cults list and books such as "Kingdom of the Cults" by the late Walter R. Martin.

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Delightful "Danielle" rediscovered!

by Focus in

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delightful danielle has been rediscovered .

>>> http://www.coolboard.com/msgshow.cfm/msgboard=65509955570636&msg=92971516361715.

but, this time we see the real one.

RR

I thought that was boy george!

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Elder's Manual Here

by Simon in

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some may find this useful, it's quite interesting and, if nothing else, really annoys the elders that you can read it.... url: http://home2.inet.tele.dk/carloc/index.htm

RR

I'll tell you a funny story, I was an attendant at an elders meeting held at the Stanley theater in Jersey City, New Jersey, when it was lunch time, I went on a shopping spree, going up and down the aisle picking up al the elders manuals I could carry, I got some really neat stuff for them .... lol!

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