Posts by KAYTEE

(im talking about the laws that exist or soon will do in the u.k) i wonder if some of the magazines that we have seen over many years could be viewed as breaking this law.. to name just a few of the points.

encouraging their members to shun ones, who may for various reasons, have stopped going to their place of worship.by inciting their members to view these ones as "apostates", and thereby doomed to die at armageddon.

KAYTEE

With the interest in racial / religious hatred laws. (I’m talking about the laws that exist or soon will do in the U.K) I wonder if some of the magazines that we have seen over many years could be viewed as breaking this law.

To name just a few of the points

Encouraging their members to shun ones, who may for various reasons, have stopped going to their place of worship.
By inciting their members to view these ones as "apostates", and thereby doomed to die at Armageddon.
Allowing families to break up and in some cases, even encouraging this.
To view all other religions, except themselves, as evil and soon to be destroyed in the coming of the great day of Jehovah.

Are similar Laws in force in other countries?

Kaytee

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Shunned by an old friend

by fullofdoubtnow in

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in all the years i was a jw, although i had many acquaintances, i only had 3 really close friends.

two of them are no longer jws.

one is trev, who is obviously a lot more than a friend to me now, and my friend marion left the wts a few months ago, with a lot of encouragement from me.. my other friend is still very much a jw, and when i was announced as no longer a jw last year, she phoned me to tell me how very upset and disappointed she was.

KAYTEE

Linda,

It's got to be one of the most disgracfull acts of so called "christianity" that the witnesses perform, Some even getting some sought of a kick out of it, thingking they are pleasing God if they do this, would Christ have acted like this, DID he act like this, NO.

With the help of Trevor you will get past this.

KT

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Someone may benefit from this..regarding the Expos'es of the organization

by Lady Liberty in

hello all.... i hope this day finds you all healthy, and happy.

i came acrossed some notes i made many months ago when i was going through the research phase of getting out.

my intent was to cover every subject i came across.

KAYTEE

Lady liberty,

Very well put together, I'm sure it will help a lot of new ones,

They have a broad selection of topics they can look into.

KT

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hello again...

by PaulJ in

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well i havent been on here for ages, and blow me down with a feather if armageddon still hasnt arrived yet.... anyways just want to say hello to anyone who might remember me and hi to everyone who doesnt.. basically i was able to get on here while i was at work (didnt have 'tinternet at home) but then my job changed and i couldnt anymore.

but now ive caught up with the rest of ther 21st century here i am, on my pc at home.. so how you all keeping?

anything exiting happen while i was away?.

KAYTEE

Hello Paul,

Good that you have internet access again. You asked if anything exciting had happened, well just take a look at all of the newbies posting - its amazing how many are coming out of the JWs.

We (myself and wife who posts as Twinkletoes) are based in Herefordshire.

Linda (fullofdoubt)

Congratulations on your forthcoming wedding next year, we hope that all goes well for both of you. Just one problem though, is Trevor marrying out of his class? (you being an emperor and all that)

Perhaps we will all meet up again for the Apostanoodle in Birmingham

KT

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A Crag in the desert ????

by KAYTEE in

in a watchtower question and answer session a few years ago.

isaiah 32 v 1-3 came up.

at that time there was 8 elders in the congregation, this was roughly my answer -.

KAYTEE

In a Watchtower question and answer session a few years ago. Isaiah 32 v 1-3 came up. At that time there was 8 elders in the congregation, this was roughly my answer -

You have been travelling in the desert for days, you are at death's door, you look down from a high point to see 8 crags in the valley below, you muster up your last ounce of strength to get to these crags and places of refuge, only to find that these crags were just mirages !

This is what the elders were - mirages, they looked good from a distance but when you got closer they had no substance at all. How easily we can be deceived.

How many of you found that your "crags in the desert" turned out to be "mirages" ?

KT

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Did you ever think you'd stop being one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by sandy in

i'm sure this question has been asked before .

i've come a long way in my thinking.

a very long way!

KAYTEE

The simple answer - like the majority have said is NO.

They portrayed something that all of us at the beginning really wanted - paradise, living forever etc. But there are times when we may feel somewhat depressed when we might consider to ourselves - why god allowed us to stay in that religion, some of us for many, many years when it is obvious now that the Org is so far removed from God

I'm sure that many of you have heard the illustration, but for the sake of all the newbies here it is again

A man fell over a cliff and grabbed a branch on the way down. His shouting brought help from above, they threw him a rope to rescue him, but he shouted out - no, I put my trust in God, they then sent a boat to the base of the cliff again to rescue him, but he said - no, I put my trust in God. They then sent a helicopter as usual this man of faith, said no I put all my trust in God. With that the branch broke and he fell to his death - when he arrived in heaven, he asked God, why didn't you save me, I put all my trust in you. And God said, I sent a rope, a boat and a helicopter to save you but you ignored them.

The moral of this tale - did we see all the signs (about the Organisation) and did we refuse to take any notice ?

In my case (I was in the Org. for over 30 years) I was guilty of ignoring the many signs that came along.

KT

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What reached you first

by Wendy_Warden in

when those of you were still jw's what was the first thing that began to open your eyes to the emptiness of jw church?

what spoke to your heart about the truth?

KAYTEE

Welcome Wendy,

For me it was the complete domineering ways of the elders when dealing with the "ordinary" brothers and sisters and their total lack of spiritual common-sense, and in some cases extreme harshness by some two-faced elders. To top it all - how glibly and easily they would lie when cornered.

KT

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What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

by gordon d in

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what scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?

for obvious reasons!

i'll start with honesty's contribution: .

KAYTEE

Math. 7 v 21.

Not everyone saying to me "Lord Lord" will enter into the kingdom of the heavens but the one doing the will of my father who is in the heavens will.

KT