most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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My wife and I resigned when we found out about the U.N. and ALL the other things.
That did not stop them disfellowshiping us.
I came into this Org. because I thought that I had found THE GOD and an Org. that had the answers to life.
It took us 30years to find out that they had been lying to us for all those years.
The only thing I have going for me is my principles, therefore I felt to carry on as a member would be to become as vile and as low as them, we feel a lot better having done that.
KT
perhaps this has been discussed before, but at the extjforo.com (the spanish ex-witness website) there has been a lot of discussion of the governing body's decision to either close or severely reduce bethel homes in europe - in particular spain.
there was even a letter sent to all congregations in spain explaining the situation.
bethalites are being asked to leave - they are not even getting other assignments.
Are the Society violating the rules of the Charity Commision (UK laws) when they sell the Spanish establishment and then put the sale proceeds into the kitty at the US Bethel. Below is a link to a website
re: RESTRICTED FUNDS TO CHARITIES AND WHAT THE DONATIONS CAN BE USED FOR.
http://www.fit4funding.org.uk/help_and_advice/spending/restricted_funding/
Restricted Fund Accounting - WYCAS
Introduction
The key point about fund accounting is that funds given for a specific purpose must be used only for that purpose, so the accounting records and the annual accounts must distinguish between the different types of funds according to the terms under which they were given (note that the term funds is used throughout to refer not only to money but to property and assets of any sort given to an organisation).
Restricted Income Funds
These are funds, which are subject to special trusts specified by the donor (for example by a letter from the donor at the time of the donation or by the terms of a public appeal). They can only be used for the purposes for which they are given, and if they are used for any other purpose it may be viewed as fraud or deception.
INTERESTING THOUGHT
KT
on april 1, 2009 a letter was sent from the governing body of jehovahs witnesses to congregations in spain informing them that the printing, shipping, and storage of watchtower publications would be discontinued at the madrid branch office.
the letter expressed confidence that the spanish witnesses would, despite the move, continue to generously support the world wide work and ends with an appeal to remain united under the direction of the witness leadership.. at a glance, this story may seem like a non-issue, perhaps, just another example of reorganization and consolidation within a multinational corporation; however, the dissolution of the printing branch has caused considerable hard feelings among some of jehovahs witnesses in spain.
to understand the reason we must first look at the history behind the branch office and external factors that some feel prompted this abrupt move.. early in their history, jehovahs witnesses began printing their trademark watchtower magazines and associated books and tracts in-house at their bethel headquarters in brooklyn, new york.
More information re: RESTRICTED FUNDS to a charity
a) Restricted Income Funds
These are funds, which are subject to special trusts specified by the donor (for example by a letter from the donor at the time of the donation or by the terms of a public appeal). They can only be used for the purposes for which they are given, and if they are used for any other purpose it may be viewed as fraud or deception.
INTERESTING THOUGHT
KT
on april 1, 2009 a letter was sent from the governing body of jehovahs witnesses to congregations in spain informing them that the printing, shipping, and storage of watchtower publications would be discontinued at the madrid branch office.
the letter expressed confidence that the spanish witnesses would, despite the move, continue to generously support the world wide work and ends with an appeal to remain united under the direction of the witness leadership.. at a glance, this story may seem like a non-issue, perhaps, just another example of reorganization and consolidation within a multinational corporation; however, the dissolution of the printing branch has caused considerable hard feelings among some of jehovahs witnesses in spain.
to understand the reason we must first look at the history behind the branch office and external factors that some feel prompted this abrupt move.. early in their history, jehovahs witnesses began printing their trademark watchtower magazines and associated books and tracts in-house at their bethel headquarters in brooklyn, new york.
A queston,
Are the Society violating the rules of the Charity Commision when they sell the printing presses and establishment and then put the sale proceeds into the kitty at Bethel
Below is a link to a website re: RESTRICTED FUNDS TO CHARITIES AND WHAT THE DONATIONS CAN BE USED FOR.
PLEASE SEE THIS WEBSITE http://www.fit4funding.org.uk/help_and_advice/spending/restricted_funding/
Introduction
The key point about fund accounting is that funds given for a specific purpose must be used only for that purpose, so the accounting records and the annual accounts must distinguish between the different types of funds according to the terms under which they were given (note that the term funds is used throughout to refer not only to money but to property and assets of any sort given to an organisation).
KT
lets forget jaracz and 95-year-old barr for a while.
the 7 new guys will soon have all the power anyway.
i'm talking about:.
"Any hope for positive changes?"
It’s like manicuring your toe nails ….when your legs are full of gangrene.
It’s too late!!!!
KT
any ideas?.
gb.
2 Peter ch 3 v 6. And by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.
7 But by the same word the heavens and earth that are now stored up for fire….
I’m not sure how that fits in with Ecc 1 v 4, A generation is going and a generation is coming, but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.
KT
the following quote is taken from the article is it wrong to change your religion?
in the july 2009 awake p29:
no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.
"blatant in their misleading double-speak"
What we seem to forget is that the Org. can write two different versions and convince us that this is perfectly correct.
They do it by writing one version with their left hand,
The other version with their right,
(do not let your left hand know what the right hand is doing)
Simple
KT
do you ever detect a difference in the way people make evaluations of an organization, as compared to an individual?
how about a difference between the way people judge one who holds an office of some sort, compared to one who doesn't?.
it seems to me that many people have a different set of standards for, say, "the people up there" as opposed to "the people down here.".
All the while the witnesses have watchtower articles like April 15 Par. 15
"Modern day apostates display characteristics similar to the devil. Their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude toward individuals in the congregation, Christian elders, or the governing body……"
All the while they read and accept such absolute RUBBISH, then these things will OUT OF FEAR not come to light.
KT
what was i thinking my entire life?
during the first part about submission, everyone gave the same comments about being obedient to the elders even though you may not agree with them.
and they talked about submission to the organization no matter what.. no one, i mean no one raised the possibility that the counsel or instructions might be wrong, or harmful.
Bonafide,
I like it.
I had a similar thing, I gave one of my slamduck answers, an elder came up afterwards and said, sisters didn’t like your answer, I told him to go away and find those that did, then come back to me.
KT
so here is one thing i have noticed, and i bet i was like this before myself.. so many jw elders have a sort of "casual importance" attitude at the meetings.
they nod a lot, they have those huge bookbags, they read those society letters during the meetings, they walk down the aisles during the meeting and whisper in each others' ear, they always sit in the aisle seats.
they give the appearance that what they are doing is the most important thing in the world.. even the way they stand, and their manner of speaking reflects that they feel important, but that they are "trying" to be humble even though jehovah god himself is using them.. for example, tonight before the meeting i was talking to an elder about the upcoming assembly.
Boyzone,
The majority of the ones I met were inflated with their own importance.
Could not command a senior job of importance in the outside world, used the elder arrangement to make up for it.
Not able to handle people with the correct amount of concern and feeling, using the stick, rather than using the carrot to get the desired results.
Most of all treating the R/F as if they cannot contribute to a situation because of lack of intelligence and spiritual knowledge.
If you have no common sense............wear a smart suit
KT
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