had a conversation with an aspiring elder.
he said the end must be close because people are so discouraged that the organization can't last more than 10 years.
this is before we received the please come to the international convention letter.
emeth i think 8,5 million will be reached in 2016 9,2 milllion in 2020, 10 milllion in 2024
If you project forward at the trend we see today (about an extra 150-160k per year (average taken over last five years) ), then emeths figures look about right.
What's not factored in is that the older ones are hanging in there, but the younger ones are not, so there will come a tipping point when there are more old ones dying off than there are younger ones joining.
Splash
hey everyone.
i have and elder friend, he is 33, and he likes to test his faith by reading some science books.
he didn't wake up yet, but he is reading 1984 from george orwell now.
Just say "I once heard someone say that this book sounds a lot like the WT organisation. Tell me if you see any similarities when you read it."
Splash
had a conversation with an aspiring elder.
he said the end must be close because people are so discouraged that the organization can't last more than 10 years.
this is before we received the please come to the international convention letter.
It amuses me to hear the phrases that people come up with to get nearer and nearer to armageddon.
"We're on the cusp"
"in the last seconds of this old system"
"at the end of the end, the last days of the last days"
"We were round the corner, now we're at the door"
They are fabulous!
One brother said to me "it's so close we can smell it!".
I told him "I can certainly smell something!"
Splash
on one of the recent boe letters, they sent a rbc form to document any accidents on the jobsite.
there is a portion to check if the injured person was an elder, pioneer, ms, etc.... .
why does this matter?
Separation of powers: No mature christian would sue.
Some have no choice but to sue.
If you fall off a roof or have something happen that means you will never work again, let me tell you that the Kingdom Hallinsurance will come nowhere near enough to cover that financially.
I think the KHAA (Kingdom Hall Assistance Arrangement) pays something like £5000 if you lose an arm or leg, and less for things like eyes.
How else will you support your family if you don't get adequate compensation?
Splash
i only heard about these atms last year on this forum.
the poster seemed to be saying they are for donating only, is that correct?
absolutely gobsmacked over this, don't the brothers see any correlation between this and the likes of jimmy swaggart?
The difference between cash and card is that you have cash in your pocket right there and then.
With a card you can be coerced to pay when you cannot afford it.
There's also this angle:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/251491/1/Snippet-from-Instructions-for-Credit-Card-Donations-at-Circuit-Events
Splash.
in a private conversation with a c.o.
friend from north carolina, he told me yesterday that they just got a letter that all traveling overseers (do's & co's) age 70 & up are going to be laid off on 09/01/2014.
they will be asssigned to local congregations and further details are pending.. .
At least those who still have time (ie are not in their 60's already) can start to make some proper plans, knowing they will be retired at 70.
Splash
we had an elderly pioneer/ms in our hall and he used to like to rattle the elders.
he liked using the "n" word in his comments.
he one time started to comment about the "ni##er pool" that he would observe among the poorer blacks.
When a MS asked why he was constantly overlooked for appointment as an elder he was told "because of your beard".
He said "But..... I don't have a beard?!?!"
The elder told him "Yes you do, you have a LIP BEARD!"
So a moustache is now a 'lip beard' in this particular congregation.
(raises eyebrows (eye beards?), rolls eyes, slaps forehead and shakes head)
Splash
why do the jw's insist that jesus was crucified on a stake??
the practice by the romans back in that time was to use a cross.
i've even heard of some witnesses say it was due to "lack of wood.
I would love for the sign of the son of man to be a cross - it would be recognised by the whole world as representing Christ.
(Matthew 24:30)
"Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief"
That would leave the Witnesses scratching their heads.
Splash.
hi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.
left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.
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According to the latest info, CO's "retire" at 70, even if it means cutting a three year visit in half.
Splash
i wonder, is this a new doctrine and when did "reason and scripture" take place.. .
page 25 paragraph 10 dec 15 2013 study wt.
10 the bread that the apostles could see and would soon partake of meant jesus body.
So for over half a century the anointed were partaking of the bread without knowing what it meant.
These included the handpicked and anointed ones of the FDS, from the famous 1914 era.
Picked by Jesus but unaware of what his most important instructions meant.
Splash
