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  Jehovah's Witnesses in Swiss Army

  by JHK in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://temoinsdejesus.fr/faux_prophetes/consolation_n%20505_1-octobre-1943.jpgp>.

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  I think the link should be:
  http://temoinsdejesus.fr/FAUX_PROPHETES/Consolation_n%20505_1-Octobre-1943.jpg

  But I now need someone to translate it !!

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  The Watchtower is under siege from inside and outside

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that is the reason the watchtower leaders are desperately trying to protect their indoctrinated supporters from being influenced by the critics.. it will get harder and harder to recruit in countries where the internet is easily accessible...the watchtower has no control over the public like it does the indoctrinated jws.

  ..any interested person can very easily google and learn the truth about the watchtower cult before a 'return visit' can be made.

  although most jws would be afraid to go into 'apostate ' sites, more and more are waking up to the truth about the watchtower , their interest triggered by different reasons such as the child abuse cover up, the constantly changing doctrines,the downsizing etc.

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  There's a generational transformation going on as well.

  The older ones in the congregation are too invested and too technophobic to learn anything other than what is in the WT.
  These ones will take their dying breath while in allegiance to the WT (probably while on f.service).

  The younger ones are technology and information hungry and very comfortable researching everything.

  As time goes on and the older ones shuffle off their mortal coil, there will be fewer young ones filling the numbers.
  We are already seeing a dearth of qualified men, and all new recruits are, by and large, young teen born-ins.

  When there are a lot of young ones together there is peer pressure to stay in, but as the leaving and fading gathers momentum then that peer pressure reduces and the the leaving escalates.

  This doesn't happen overnight, it doesn't happen in a year, but over the coming two to three decades there will be a natural attrition which will not be compensated for. This will be intensified every time the WT comes out with another wacky idea.

  It's a slow process, but like the melting of the icecaps it has already started and is not easy to reverse.

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  Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'

  by OwnAccord in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where do they come up with this stuff?.

  this is a topic on 'the other site'.

  i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.

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  prologos splash, It is not the GT, but the final battle ,Armageddon that is not posiible,-- until group 2 is gone. of course the 3rd group too will go have yo go with them, as fellow anointed, for the wedding.

  Ah, silly me. How did I miss something so obvious and simple!

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  Describe What a Jehovah's Witness Elder Is Like

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know what they are supposed to be like.

  but at this point in time, do you think the elders look joyful?

  are they serious bible students?

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  Many elders have poor education, low paying menial jobs and little else over which to feel respected or successful.

  Being an elder is the pinnacle of achievement for some who have nothing else to point at as a measure of success.

  No wonder they will cling to it despite it making them ill and destroying their families due to neglect.

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  Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'

  by OwnAccord in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where do they come up with this stuff?.

  this is a topic on 'the other site'.

  i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.

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  Anyone who was anointed prior to Franz death in 1992, and are still alive, make up the second group.
  The second group is therefore far from gone.

  This is the overlap - those who were anointed and saw 1914, and those anointed who overlap with them but did not see 1914.

  In fact the Gt. Trib is only possible before the second group is gone.

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  For fellow Beroeans, Gen 49:27

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thought this was worth sharing.. .

  where did the interpretation of gen 49:27 come from ?.

  tms review question 4. .

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  Some of these teachings go so far back that I think the WT have forgotten where they come from.

  The same thought was also in an earlier WT:

  *** w62 7/1 p. 407 par. 65 Fellow Rulers with the “Lion of the Tribe of Judah” ***
  Like a wolf that eats in the morning the animal seized, the tribe of Benjamin provided the first king over Israel, in the morning of the kingdom of Israel. This king was Saul the son of Kish, and he was a fierce fighter against the Philistines. (1 Sam. 9:15-17) Moreover, like a wolf that at evening divides the spoil from its hunt, so in the evening of the nation of Israel the tribe of Benjamin provided Queen Esther and Prime Minister Mordecai for the Persian Empire in the days of King Ahasuerus.

  TheOldHippie But so what?

  An honest organisation would credit the source instead of masquerading as the source.
  Theologically this means that Gill was directed by the Holy Spirit to understand this prophecy. Therefore the Strict Baptists were then God's channel for communicating this truth, and this was done prior to the FDS arriving in 1919. If Jesus didn't arrive until 1914 then who gave this understanding to John Gill and why is it still correct?

  It undermines the WT statement that we cannot understand the Bible without the aid of the FDS, don't you think?
  It also makes you wonder what other teachings we have adopted and retained from Babylon the Great.

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  Will the Dress and Grooming Guidelines for Bethel Visitors Morph to This?

  by committeechairman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from this: http://tinyurl.com/l7qa77e.

  to this: http://tinyurl.com/abhv6yf.

  north korea only allows 28 state approved haircuts.

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  The upcoming CA's have a section on dress and grooming.
  They are using the scripture about wearing 'foreign attire' (zeph 1:8) to say we should not have styles like the world does.

  I think the metrosexual look gets a hammering again as well.

  Too many tight trousers.

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  Job 6:6

  by Bebopin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  king james version job 6:6. can that which is unsavory be eaten without salt?

  or is there any taste in the white of an egg?.

  new world translation "watchtowers version" job 6:6. will tasteless thing be eaten without salt , or is there any taste in the slimy juice of a marshmallow?.

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  Where translations refer to the 'white of an egg', it is the clear liquid form being referred to, not the boiled white type.

  This is why the original NWT quote you provided describes it as 'slimy juice'.

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  Removing DO's Will Be a Fatal Mistake

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is an article i looked up about the collapse of the soviet union.

  striking similarities.. http://www.worldology.com/europe/europe_articles/causes_soviet_collapse.htm.

  stagnating economy: the soviet union had grown to a size large enough to the point where it became cumbersome to continue state planning.

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  smiddy Arent jehovahs witnesses , the WTB&TS , on record criticzing christendom for pensioning off their clergy when they reach 70 ? the accepted year of retirement , saying words to the affect , that a true christian (JW ) never retires ? Their in the service until they die ?

  Wow smiddy, that's an impressive memory you have there!

  The quote you're thinking of was specific to the anointed.
  The WT comment is comparing apples with oranges as usual, since even 'pensioned off' clergy can remain faithful until death - they are not pensioned off from living a Christian life. Anointed are also pensioned off from their jobs and even their congregation responsibilities if they get too old, but again it doesn't stop them leading Christian lives.

  *** w67 2/15 p. 118 par. 23 “From a Weak State . . . Made Powerful” ***
  "Many individuals of the anointed remnant are now finishing their earthly course in faithfulness. Like Samson of old, they are fighters for God’s righteousness to the end, sharing to the full in the vindication of Jehovah’s great name. They do not look to be pensioned off, like Christendom’s clergy. Rather, they prove themselves “faithful even to death,” and so the promise is sure to them: “Happy are the dead who die in union with the Lord from this time onward . . . for the things they did go right with them.” "
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  The Organization is expanding so much........

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...that district overseers are now being used as circuit overseers!!

  that was a comment at the wt study program.

  another great comment was this: " you can go to bethel and have zero skills.

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  wasblind Call me country dumb, But I have to ask What's the use of higher education if you still can't earn enough to pay your debts ?

  In the UK we have some really rubbish university courses that will never help you get a job.

  For example: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1710482

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