Posts by Xanthippe

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Does WT use intellectual intimidation in publications?

by KateWild in

when i first learned ttatt, i read loads all at once and tried to absorb everything.

then i slowed down evaluated my priorities and took one step at time.

now my kids know ttatt and i have set some goals in life, i am ready to take on my next project in my deprogramming.. intellectual intimidation.

Xanthippe

Hi Kate, I agree with Oub that nothing about the WTBTS is intellectual. I do feel though that when you have questions as I did at 16 about the Ransom, I just couldn't see it and later about the seven times prophecy, they treat you as if you are an idiot. Why are you having a problem with it no-one else is? It's very straightforward, what's so difficult about it? That is intellectual intimidation. It's a case of, What, you can't see the Emperor's new clothes! No I just thought he was naked!

It's a good life lesson though isn't it? I keep reminding myself that if I think something doesn't sound right then I do not let anyone twist my arm and make me believe it ever again. That sixteen-year-old was no idiot!

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The Downside of using the name of JEHOVAH

by Terry in

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example #1: a child is caught eating a candy bar before bedtime.. .

the child is caught and makes an excuse:.

3. the child is blame-shifting in the name of his father.. .

Xanthippe

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How I Know The Assembly Parts Are Made Up

by lovelylil in

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we had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.

he told me that was o.k.

because he could use me anyway for another part.

Xanthippe

Then, the brother asks me flat out if I can fudge it a little by changing the details to suit the part better. I was like No, I can't do that. I can't lie to all those people and have them congratulate me on an experience I never had. He was like, I don't see what it can hurt - Lovelylil

Thanks for bumping this thread VM44. The thing that makes me angry is that we believed that it was very wrong to lie. My pioneer sister lost her part-time job as a secretary because she refused to lie for her boss, just to say over the phone that he wasn't in. Lots of ordinary witnesses have suffered through being honest in their work and then these elders ask people to lie about experiences from the convention platform!

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

Xanthippe

Dull men in dull suits who can barely put a sentence together! How did I stand being patronized by those idiots? I will never complain that I am having a dull day again! My life now is wonderful.

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Going To Aruba For My Birthday!

by minimus in

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staying at an all inclusive for my birthday next month.

this will be the third time i use cheap caribbean.com....what a great deal..

Xanthippe

Happy Birthday minimus and have a wonderful holiday

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Get well Grace (Mouthy)

by label licker in

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a loud get well grace from all of us to you.

everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.

we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.

Xanthippe

Label Licker, any news yet about how Grace is? Thanks.

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How do individual JW's justify Jehovah's Old Testament orders to kill little children even babies (amalekites, canaanites)?

by Daniel1555 in

in 1. samuel 15:2-3 we read jehovah's order to kill "all" amalekites.

it says "you are to put them to death, man as well as woman, child as well as infant...".

in deuteronomy 2:32-34 the israelites say about sihon.

Xanthippe

Further to that, in the congregations I attended, the most common reason given from the platform was that if you kill the adults in a rat's nest you have to kill the babies too because they grow up into rats. That's why babies and children have to die at Armageddon. Charming belief, isn't it?

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Have you been Invalidated?

by Londo111 in

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http://www.eqi.org/invalid.htm.

of course, being in a cult and the shunning that comes from leaving it is invalidating.. but how many times have we heard "move on" or "get over it"?

that is a prime example of invalidation.. sometimes this forum, as well as others, can be a mixed bag of validation and invalidation..

Xanthippe

Londo I think I got to a point where I realised that I couldn't change the past and I didn't want my life to be wasted in regrets. Too much of it had been wasted already. I've been out for twenty-five years and I never mean to invalidate people who are just leaving when I encourage them to see the world, enjoy life and think about something other than this cult. It's just that human life is finite.

My father always wanted to travel. He was always talking about buying a Land Rover and travelling to Africa, etc. Never went out of the UK in the end! He sat by my mother's bed when she was dying and talked again about this wish and said to me, I suppose it's too late now isn't it? What could I say? I don't mean to be melodramatic but life slips away so fast.

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Edge of Tomorrow

by Xanthippe in

went to see this at the cinema last night and really enjoyed it.

suppose you either like sci fi or you don't but i thought it was an interesting plot well executed.

anyone else see it?

Xanthippe

Mmm I know what you mean Oubliette but actually his age fits with the plot. He had either an advertising or a PR agency before the war with the aliens and was conscripted to be the PR man for the new army. So he has never seen action and is a raw recruit (forcibly as you will see). However he has the intelligence because he was an astute business man, to work out how to defeat the aliens and the muscle and fighting expertise is actually provided by Emily Blunt who trains him. Interesting plot.

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Edge of Tomorrow

by Xanthippe in

went to see this at the cinema last night and really enjoyed it.

suppose you either like sci fi or you don't but i thought it was an interesting plot well executed.

anyone else see it?

Xanthippe

Went to see this at the cinema last night and really enjoyed it. Suppose you either like sci fi or you don't but I thought it was an interesting plot well executed. Anyone else see it?