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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  Rivergang

  In its time, the Spanish influenza pandemic saw some bizarre "cures" being attempted - which is understandable, given that medical science of 100 years ago was nowhere near advanced as it is now.

  Perhaps, though, the most bizarre one of the lot was often recounted by my gandparents, who lived on the adjacent property to where this incident took place. A local farmer decided that the best preventative to catching the flu was to take a swim through the sheep dip, which he proceeded to do - and I never thought to ask the grandparents if the guy subsequently caught the flu or not!

  Others maintained that smoking was a good preventative measure (imagine!)

  Some doctors, out of desparation,resorted to the use of such toxins as strychnine and digitalis. Self medication resulted in widespread cases of asprin poisoning, with the commonly held (though mistaken belief) that "if two are good, then four are even better" type of approach being tried.

  Two decades into the 21st Century, though, it is rather unbelievable that somebody should even have to ask if internal use of disinfectants was a possible treatment for COVID-19.
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  Kids Without Rules

  by minimus in

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  i see a lot of kids that rarely get discipline.

  they are allowed to do whatever they want and if someone says something to them they don’t want to hear, they blow them off, ignore them or engage in disrespectful talk.. what’s wrong with today’s parents??

  they are producing a generation of entitled brats!.

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  Every person who is currently serving a prison sentence got there for exactly the same reason - they violated Commandment No.11 "Thou shalt not get caught".

  I don't know that this is a good message to convey to children, though

  i.e. Anything is fair game, as long as you don't get caught?
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  One cannot be too complacent with this thing, if the experience of Singapore is anything to go by!

  Singapore, together with several other Asian countries, were being upheld as examples of how best to handle this pandemic. Now they are having to do it all over again.

  https://www.cnet.com/news/singapore-had-the-coronavirus-under-control-now-it-is-locking-down-the-country/
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  The term "cautious optimism" best describes the present situation regarding the anti-viral drug Remdesiver. As its manufacturer, Gilead Sciences, is emphasising:

  "The totality of the data need to be analyzed in order to draw any conclusions from the trial. Anecdotal reports, while encouraging, do not provide the statistical power necessary to determine the safety and efficacy profile of remdesivir as a treatment for Covid-19," Gilead said.
  

  Amongst the better news on the COVID-19 front is that this drug is one of a number currently being trialled. Should Remdesiver not live up to promise, the fight to develop an effective COVID-19 treatment is far from over.
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  Rivergang

  you might think the world over-reacted based on false data and wonky models that were just wrong.
  

  Crystal ball gazing definitely tends towards being a black art, rather than a precise science!

  However, in a crisis such as this, one has to start somewhere.

  Declaring that "She'll Be Right, Mate" just because we cannot be 100% sure - and using that as an excuse for doing nothing - is NOT an option.
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  China where it started ,83,000 / USA now <400,000 How come ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  am i missing something here ?

  how is it that where this covid 19 started , in wuhan china, china has only ,reportedly 83,000 for the whole country ?

  whereas in the united states of america the figure is just under 400,000 ?.

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  Who is John Martin?
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  China where it started ,83,000 / USA now <400,000 How come ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  am i missing something here ?

  how is it that where this covid 19 started , in wuhan china, china has only ,reportedly 83,000 for the whole country ?

  whereas in the united states of america the figure is just under 400,000 ?.

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  Rivergang

  Head of WHO is an Ethiopean communist.
  

  
  

  What evidence do you have that the Director General of the World Health Organisation is a "communist"?
  Ethiopia abandoned communism nearly 30 years ago, whereas Dr. Tedros Adhanom served as a cabinet minister between the years 2005 and 2016, long after the fall of communism. Furthermore, his political party (known as the TPLF) is the name given to the coalition group which, in May of 1991, overthrew the communist government of Mengistu Haile Mariam.

  Even if Tedros Adhanom was an "Ethiopian communist", that wouldn't necessarily make him kindly disposed towards China. During its time of communist rule (1974 - 1991), Ethiopia was closely allied to the Soviet Union, not China. (Despite both countries having a communist form of government, the USSR was almost as anti-China as the West ever was).

  
  
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  Covid 19 is a chance to dump 1914

  by hoser in

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  as the jws regroup after being in isolation it would be an ideal time to say the last days started in 2014. the territory will be ripe with people whose lives have been turned upside down.

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  After all, what is +/- a hundred years between friends!
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  My D.I.L. Works in a Pharmacy and gets abused by stupid people.

  by smiddy3 in

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  hi friends ,my d.i.l.

  works in a pharmacy and looks after people who needs prescriptions and advice on health care products that patrons need .and the sad thing is with this covid19 virus seems to be bringing out the worst in too many people as more often than not she is getting abused and challenged for wearing what she and her workmates have to keep themselves and the public free from this virus.. there are notices all around the store telling people that they are out of certain items and cant supply them such as hand sanitizers ,face masks ,gloves ,personal disinfectant wipes etc,etc.and she gets abused because she has gloves on ,has a face mask on ,and has hand sanitizer that she can use and the customer says something like you have it why cant i get it ?.

  in an abusive and challenging way and its getting her down.. she is getting tired of trying to tell the public she is their to help them and if she and her co-workers get sick the shop will close and nobody will get the help they need.. also they don`t respect the distance they need to keep from each other they lean over the counter with there hands touching everything trying to get in her face complaining.not only do they not appreciate they should only be in the store to get what they need and then get out ,they just treat it like any other normal day and browse around the shop picking up any and everything then putting it down again and buying items that are not necessary for their day to day existence .. i feel very sorry for her and all of the people doing like minded work , who are suffering under the same stress needlessly by unthinking uncaring people .. i just want to add she is a beautiful young lady who has a lovely caring personality and its a shame that she and others in her profession are subjected to this form of abuse.. note : this is happening in regional victoria australia.

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  Rivergang

  The reception area in the Emergency Department of our local hospital has long displayed a prominent warning sign, to the effect that "Physical or Verbal Abuse" of hospital staff will not be tolerated. Likewise, there has always been similar signage at most of the doctor's clinics around the district (long before the COVID-19 virus was ever heard off).

  My brother in law was a long-serving paramedic in the ambulance service, and spoke of how he and other ambulance officers often physically attacked while at work. The problem was so widespread that one of the pre-requisites for being an ambulance officer was described as being both physically robust, together with a definite mental hardness. Although he, in many ways, fitted the bill (particularly as a former rugby union player), the stress finally drove this person to drink. In order to help break his addiction to alcohol, my BIL had to get himself transferred onto less stressful work.

  Why anybody would abuse others who are only trying to help them is completely beyond me!
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  Put the Blame Where it Belongs

  by cofty in

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  Rivergang

  Slightly off-topic, but I can't but have a quiet chuckle as to the irony of it all.

  Our family has south-East Asian connections, and I have been the butt of many a snide remark about what unhygienic b@$t@rd$ us white people are. Now I see it for what that really is, Asians trying to out-do Europeans about being Europeans!