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  Zoom meetings to continue thru July

  by Wakanda in

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  co is coming and expecting to zoom it in july.

  also there is no talk about starting to slowly go back to the hall.

  like having 1 group at the hall and the rest on zoom, etc.

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  I think the biggest part missing is the socializing before and after meetings.

  Fellowshipping and socializing have been used interchangeably by JW's in the past where I am. So with the willful lack of genuine SOCIALIZING I would say that JW's have now 90% "disfellowshipped" everyone. Other than the free for all trying to be herd (spelled this way for a reason) above everyone else for a few chaotic minutes prior to and after the zoom and doom "meetings". No real socializing or fellowship, and that suits their mentality perfectly. And no, I am not advocating for large gatherings to socialize, just that not even a one-on-one 6 feet apart visit happens, because the branch said not to visit homes of fellow JW's.
  
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  The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

  by smiddy3 in

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  i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

  2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

  4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

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  Perhaps somewhat of topic, I asked someone once if God is love? Yes. Okay, then why do humans die? They sinned, so are not perfect and die because of imperfection. So did the God of love create anything imperfect? No, he could not create imperfection. So if we die because we sinned and lost perfection, and God of love cannot create imperfection why do animals die? Because they were not created to live forever. So then why did the God of love instill in humans the need for pets, and the ability to love them, only to have to face the pain and sadness of losing them when they die? I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see!
  
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  Ever wonder how to be "saved" as a JW?

  by sir82 in

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  2. beliefs

  i was searching for something on the wt online library, and was struck by all the requirements a jw has in order to be "saved".. want to see a partial list?

  all these found by searching for "salvation depends" on wol.

  just do all 26 things, and you too can be saved!.

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  Salvation depends on: Obeying and being in total 100% agreement with whatever the governing body says the truth is currently, and denying that whatever they said the truth was last year was ever said, and believing that even quotes from WT that are 180 degrees from what is said this year was ever printed and are only lies by apostates.
  
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  COVID-19 - Would It Work to Allow People to Sign Away Rights for Treatment Like JW's Do for Blood?

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  people want to get back to work, back to "normal" in many cases (whatever normal now means).

  even trump is encouraging protesters in 3 states.. but with the covid-19 thing, this is not just a matter of a person taking a risk, as a person may do who smokes, takes illegal drugs or in other ways lives an unhealthy lifestyle.

  in general, most (not all, since cost of insurance and public hospitals may be involved), but generally you are not putting the lives of others at risk.

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  If I put myself in danger, I am agreeing not to expect treatment.

  And of course when smokers choose to put themselves at risk you would be fine if they refuse any treatment for lung cancer, right?
  
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  New York Times: ‘People Would Be So Receptive Right Now, and We Can’t Knock on Doors.’

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

  the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

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  I heard a couple days ago from a friend via email, "This is so exciting. A Bethel speaker just said that this pandemic is the soft start of the GT!"

  So yes, the spin cycle is starting.
  
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  2 Letters Arrived--English and Spanish!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2020-04-15 english encouragement for elderly.

  https://docdro.id/chmzmpj.

  2020-04-17 spanish .

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  If JW's really want to be "no part" of the world, then how many will refuse their stimulus check and rely on Jehovah to provide for them?

  None of them. They will yap on about how "it is Gee-HO'-Vuh who provided it." Just like they flap their gums about how wonderful the governing body are to provide the letter from Gee-HO'-Vuh about how to stay healthy through the COVID-19 season. Never mind they did nothing other than cut and paste what the government already had printed several weeks earlier!
  
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  Do You Feel Your Rights Are Being Trampled On By Government Regarding Coronavirus?

  by minimus in

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  i support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.

  i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.

  are we prolonging this virus at all ?

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  I would rather die standing up for myself, than live kneeling for the government!
  
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  MANUAL!--2020-04 SFL.

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2020-04-addendum letter.. https://docdro.id/n0hm6tg.

  2020-04 shepherd the flock of god elder manual.

  https://docdro.id/llechtz.

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  Isn't it easy to see what they consider important:

  Yes it is. This was printed even before the "Table of Contents: To make a donation, please visit donate.jw.org.
  
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  Disunited States of America?

  by jwleaks in

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  recognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.

  this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.

  meanwhile on the west coast:.

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  Strange that these governors are now being praised when just a couple weeks ago when Trump talked about reopening the country by Easter, even though the President hadn't reached a final decision on exactly when the government's guidelines would be relaxed to get the economy back up and running, he was condamned for his optimism.
  
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  I guess I am pretty dense. How, exactly, will testing be the answer? If I were to test negative today, be exposed to someone tomorrow who spreads it to me, then what? To my way of thinking testing would only genuinely help if EVERYONE got tested simultaneously, and then every single person with a positive test were placed under extremely strict house arrest with zero contact with the outside world, for however long it took to herd vaccinate every single person who tested negative. Somewhere, somehow, sometime, someone is going to get sick from this virus, and IMO that is just a fact of life.

  And NO, I am NOT saying there is no concern or this is a hoax or any of that other garbage, so don't even go there!